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Re: Senate in Boston news
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Janet Li)
Wed Apr 14 00:50:44 2010
In-Reply-To: <1175FCC7-1AB4-4B86-B184-DDEB4AC09E03@mit.edu>
From: Janet Li <jli12@MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:50:16 -0400
To: Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>
Cc: The Other Other CFS <campaignforsanitizers@gmail.com>, ua-senate@mit.edu
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... OMG, hahaha
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Janet Li
MIT Class of 2012
Dept. of Biological Engineering
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu> wrote:
> Props to Janet!
>
> ... but seriously, we had a student protest last Friday and THIS is the
> story the local news runs? this would be a perfect example of why I watch
> the Daily Show for my news.
>
>
>
> alex
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:23 AM, The Other Other CFS wrote:
>
> http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO139894/
>>
>> The Campaign for Sanitizers does not know whether to say congrats or...
>>
>> But in either case, "Way to get in the news Senate!"
>>
>> (although we still think Mandatory Showering on Kresge Oval would have
>> been way more hilarious)
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Tim Stumbaugh <stum@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> For those who lack the relevant context:
>>>
>>> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS40/passed/40%20UAS%206.1%20-%20Student%20Center%20Sanitizers.pdf
>>>
>>> On 10 Apr 2010 00.22, The Other Other CFS wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Campaign for Sanitizers fully supports the spirit of this bill,
>>>> but encourages consideration of a few other options:
>>>>
>>>> 1. turn on the sprinklers on Kresge Oval, drag all reading room
>>>> occupants out there, enforce Mandatory Showering.
>>>> Pros: essentially free, much more hysterical
>>>> Cons: we hate anything mandatory
>>>>
>>>> 2. build a wall to divide the room into two sections, have a Smell
>>>> Sheriff at the entrance determine whether a person belongs on the
>>>> smell-free or smelly side.
>>>> Pros: public shaming
>>>> Cons: a decent wall is probably more expensive than the proposed
>>>> expenditures.
>>>>
>>>> 3. don't allow (smelly) food
>>>> Pros: would actually help if people followed it
>>>> Cons: too obvious
>>>>
>>>> 4. shoot any smelly offenders
>>>> Pros: sure would get the message across clearly
>>>> Cons: might be illegal in some states. and countries. and might
>>>> be ethically questionable.
>>>>
>>>> 5. close the damn Reading Room
>>>> Pros: forces the smelly people to diffuse around campus. Then
>>>> the space could be given to student groups. We hear that MITSFS would
>>>> likely still love this idea.
>>>> Cons: It has not been proven that the aforementioned
>>>> substitution would make a significant positive impact with respect to
>>>> the problem in question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In summary, The Campaign is against smelliness, but ironically has no
>>>> strong stance in either direction on personal hygiene. So while The
>>>> Campaign supports the spirit of this proposal, it would highly prefer
>>>> a free and more amusing and shaming plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Other Other CFS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ps - one point of inquiry: the Reading Room has a significant smell
>>>> problem, but the neighboring cluster does not? This sure seems
>>>> counter-intuitive to us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Janet Li<jli12@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to give you a heads up on a bill I'm working on, which I'll
>>>>> try
>>>>> to
>>>>> send to Tim soon so that it can be on the agenda for our next meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Committee on Space Planning has been working with the CAC to
>>>>> improve
>>>>> the
>>>>> Reading Room, namely the smell. The ventilation system and everything
>>>>> are
>>>>> working fine, so the main problem is probably just the students
>>>>> themselves,
>>>>> many of whom get locked up studying in the Reading Room without taking
>>>>> care
>>>>> of their hygiene. We've made some posters about stress and hygiene to
>>>>> raise
>>>>> awareness of this problem (which are going up soon, if they're not
>>>>> already
>>>>> up), but for finals week, we wanted to do something more. Together with
>>>>> Jennifer Smith (the assistant director of the CAC) and some of MIT's
>>>>> health
>>>>> educators, we've decided to tackle this hygiene issue by having free
>>>>> samples
>>>>> of toothpaste, soap, deodorant, and mouthwash available in the Reading
>>>>> Room
>>>>> for the last day of spring classes through the last day of finals (May
>>>>> 13-20).
>>>>>
>>>>> Jennifer was able to obtain free samples of toothpaste and soap, but
>>>>> for
>>>>> six
>>>>> days of 50 samples/day, the other products would cost: $174 for
>>>>> deodorant
>>>>> ($0.58/piece) and $267 for mouthwash ($0.89/piece). So the bill asks
>>>>> for
>>>>> a
>>>>> total of $441 from Senate Discretionary to cover the cost of these
>>>>> samples.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you all think? Since the Reading Room and its smell are issues
>>>>> that
>>>>> affect many undergrads, and because the UA Committee on Space Planning
>>>>> has
>>>>> been working with the CAC on this, I think that it's reasonable to
>>>>> request
>>>>> this funding from the Senate discretionary fund. Jennifer is already
>>>>> using
>>>>> the CAC's funds to print posters and buy the display stands, as well as
>>>>> paying for the student graphics worker.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Janet Li
>>>>> MIT Class of 2012
>>>>> Dept. of Biological Engineering
>>>>> Undergraduate Association Baker Senator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> -Tim
>>> "Now, I'll stop the storm if it rains."
>>>
>>>
> __________________________________
> Alexandra Jordan
>
> MIT 2011
> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> Political Science
>
> amjordan@mit.edu
> 916.813.7740
>
>
>
>
>
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... OMG, hahaha<br clear=3D"all">---<br>Janet Li<br>MIT Class of 2012<br>De=
pt. of Biological Engineering<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Alexan=
dra Jordan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu">amjord=
an@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
Props to Janet!<br>
<br>
... but seriously, we had a student protest last Friday and THIS is the sto=
ry the local news runs? this would be a perfect example of why I watch the =
Daily Show for my news.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
alex<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:23 AM, The Other Other CFS wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href=3D"http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO139894/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO139894/</a><br>
<br>
The Campaign for Sanitizers does not know whether to say congrats or...<br>
<br>
But in either case, "Way to get in the news Senate!"<br>
<br>
(although we still think Mandatory Showering on Kresge Oval would have<br>
been way more hilarious)<br>
<br>
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Tim Stumbaugh <<a href=3D"mailto:stum@mi=
t.edu" target=3D"_blank">stum@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
For those who lack the relevant context:<br>
<a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS40/passed/40%20UAS%206.1%20-%20S=
tudent%20Center%20Sanitizers.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.edu/ua/s=
enate/UAS40/passed/40%20UAS%206.1%20-%20Student%20Center%20Sanitizers.pdf</=
a><br>
<br>
On 10 Apr 2010 00.22, The Other Other CFS wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
The Campaign for Sanitizers fully supports the spirit of this bill,<br>
but encourages consideration of a few other options:<br>
<br>
1. turn on the sprinklers on Kresge Oval, drag all reading room<br>
occupants out there, enforce Mandatory Showering.<br>
=A0 =A0 Pros: essentially free, much more hysterical<br>
=A0 =A0 Cons: we hate anything mandatory<br>
<br>
2. build a wall to divide the room into two sections, have a Smell<br>
Sheriff at the entrance determine whether a person belongs on the<br>
smell-free or smelly side.<br>
=A0 =A0 Pros: public shaming<br>
=A0 =A0 Cons: a decent wall is probably more expensive than the proposed<b=
r>
expenditures.<br>
<br>
3. don't allow (smelly) food<br>
=A0 =A0 Pros: would actually help if people followed it<br>
=A0 =A0 Cons: too obvious<br>
<br>
4. shoot any smelly offenders<br>
=A0 =A0 Pros: sure would get the message across clearly<br>
=A0 =A0 Cons: might be illegal in some states. =A0and countries. =A0and mi=
ght<br>
be ethically questionable.<br>
<br>
5. close the damn Reading Room<br>
=A0 =A0 Pros: forces the smelly people to diffuse around campus. =A0Then<b=
r>
the space could be given to student groups. =A0We hear that MITSFS would<br=
>
likely still love this idea.<br>
=A0 =A0 Cons: =A0It has not been proven that the aforementioned<br>
substitution would make a significant positive impact with respect to<br>
the problem in question.<br>
<br>
<br>
In summary, The Campaign is against smelliness, but ironically has no<br>
strong stance in either direction on personal hygiene. =A0So while The<br>
Campaign supports the spirit of this proposal, it would highly prefer<br>
a free and more amusing and shaming plan.<br>
<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
The Other Other CFS<br>
<br>
<br>
ps - one point of inquiry: the Reading Room has a significant smell<br>
problem, but the neighboring cluster does not? =A0This sure seems<br>
counter-intuitive to us.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Janet Li<<a href=3D"mailto:jli12@mit.edu=
" target=3D"_blank">jli12@mit.edu</a>> =A0wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Hey everyone,<br>
<br>
I wanted to give you a heads up on a bill I'm working on, which I'l=
l try<br>
to<br>
send to Tim soon so that it can be on the agenda for our next meeting.<br>
<br>
The Committee on Space Planning has been working with the CAC to improve<br=
>
the<br>
Reading Room, namely the smell. The ventilation system and everything are<b=
r>
working fine, so the main problem is probably just the students<br>
themselves,<br>
many of whom get locked up studying in the Reading Room without taking<br>
care<br>
of their hygiene. We've made some posters about stress and hygiene to<b=
r>
raise<br>
awareness of this problem (which are going up soon, if they're not<br>
already<br>
up), but for finals week, we wanted to do something more. Together with<br>
Jennifer Smith (the assistant director of the CAC) and some of MIT's<br=
>
health<br>
educators, we've decided to tackle this hygiene issue by having free<br=
>
samples<br>
of toothpaste, soap, deodorant, and mouthwash available in the Reading<br>
Room<br>
for the last day of spring classes through the last day of finals (May<br>
13-20).<br>
<br>
Jennifer was able to obtain free samples of toothpaste and soap, but for<br=
>
six<br>
days of 50 samples/day, the other products would cost: $174 for deodorant<b=
r>
($0.58/piece) and $267 for mouthwash ($0.89/piece). So the bill asks for<br=
>
a<br>
total of $441 from Senate Discretionary to cover the cost of these<br>
samples.<br>
<br>
What do you all think? Since the Reading Room and its smell are issues<br>
that<br>
affect many undergrads, and because the UA Committee on Space Planning<br>
has<br>
been working with the CAC on this, I think that it's reasonable to<br>
request<br>
this funding from the Senate discretionary fund. Jennifer is already<br>
using<br>
the CAC's funds to print posters and buy the display stands, as well as=
<br>
paying for the student graphics worker.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
---<br>
Janet Li<br>
MIT Class of 2012<br>
Dept. of Biological Engineering<br>
Undergraduate Association Baker Senator<br>
<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
--<br>
-Tim<br>
"Now, I'll stop the storm if it rains."<br>
<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br></div></div>
__________________________________<br>
Alexandra Jordan<br>
<br>
MIT 2011<br>
Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science<br>
Political Science<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a><=
br>
916.813.7740<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>
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