[607] in UA Senate
Re: Dining Idea Bank
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Hawkins)
Sun Apr 11 16:39:30 2010
Reply-To: hwkns@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <v2s4c42650a1004110730z4d9451b0nb9369e66affe46b1@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:39:26 -0400
From: Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@MIT.EDU>
To: Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>
Cc: Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>, Paul Baranay <pbaranay@mit.edu>,
Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu>, mbennie@mit.edu,
Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>,
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
Austen W McRae <amcrae@mit.edu>, UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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1. No one is asking for up/down ranking to replace written comments. The
ranking system on the original Idea Bank did not replace or hinder written
comments. The ranking system on the UA's feedback-gathering web site did
not replace or hinder written comments. Without a ranking system, it will
be very difficult and time-consuming to tell what the most popular ideas
are, or even which ideas a majority of students think are reasonable. I
don't suppose you'd tell me who argued against it so I could go convince
them? Did you discuss why rankings weren't a part of the Idea Bank to begi=
n
with? If they had been, I doubt anyone would have wasted time on that
topic...
2. Will you also discuss why DSL has been dragging its feet? I don't want
the conversation to go, "Why are there no minutes on the web site?" "Oh,
they'll be up tomorrow." "Oh, ok." Because it's NOT ok. With this
ridiculously short time-line, it's important that everything happens in a
timely manner, and when it doesn't, I want an explanation.
-hwkns
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu> wrote:
> 2. This is something we are discussing at the next meeting.
>
> 1. The final conclusion was that an up/down or ranking system would
> not be as meaningful as a written comment...depth of response was
> favored over breadth of responses. This was a long fight...it took
> probably a third of the meeting. Most of the other students didn't
> have a strong opinion, a one or two were against the ranking/voting.
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
> > What the fuck.
> >
> > 1. That's retarded. Seriously, there is absolutely no good reason not =
to
> > add that feature.
> > 2. I wondered how this decision could have been justified, so I looked
> for
> > the meeting minutes on the web site. They're not there.
> >
> > -hwkns
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> HDAG, for some totally misguided reason, decided against a thumbs
> >> up/thumbs down feature. So now we have to work extra hard to get stude=
nt
> >> feedback out there.
> >> Encourage your constituencies to go the website and participate, even =
if
> >> it's something as simple as a comment saying "yes."
> >> Alex
> >>
> >> On Apr 9, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Alexandra Jordan wrote:
> >>
> >> The Idea Bank is still open and looking for comments and new solutions=
.
> >> Help out Adam and the other student reps on HDAG by representing your
> >> constituencies: http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >> On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Paul Baranay wrote:
> >>
> >> For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would also
> >> highly recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA,
> currently
> >> Duane Boning (boning@mtl.mit.edu). Regardless of whether you are one
> of the
> >> student representatives on the committee or not, emailing him to voice
> your
> >> concerns is always appropriate. Similarly, keep your student
> >> representatives on CUAFA, whoever they end up being, accountable.
> >> Best,
> >> Paul
> >> P.S. Perhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the minutes
> of
> >> CUAFA's future/past discussions about the financial aid allowance for
> food
> >> to be made public. Institute Committees in general have traditionally
> been
> >> very resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transparen=
t,
> >> which makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antitrust
> laws
> >> that prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but perha=
ps
> it
> >> would be possible to have an exception made for this specific case.
> Asking
> >> Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaking
> with
> >> MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as well=
.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Of course -- it's not a short-term matter, since it's tied to the mea=
l
> >>> plan discussions. Thanks for the information on the current situatio=
n.
> I'm
> >>> actually trying for a spot on CUAFA precisely because of what my
> research
> >>> uncovered on this issue -- I am very interested in making sure that
> students
> >>> are properly represented when these decisions are made.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ted
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <mbennie@mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It hasn't happened yet. My understanding is that the financial
> allowance
> >>>> for food was reduced only slightly this year (on the order of $100).
> It
> >>>> doesn't appear that financial aid for food will be significantly
> reduced in
> >>>> the short run.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President Hockfield
> has
> >>>> been very open about her commitment to financial aid (although that =
is
> the
> >>>> larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears that the
> student
> >>>> reps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make sure the
> student
> >>>> reps we approve for next year are informed on this issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400
> >>>> To: <hwkns@mit.edu>
> >>>> Cc: Paul Youchak<youchakp@mit.edu>; Alexandra Jordan<amjordan@mit.ed=
u
> >;
> >>>> Jont=C3=A9 Craighead<jontec@mit.edu>; Adam Bockelie<bockelie@mit.edu=
>;
> Austen W
> >>>> McRae<amcrae@mit.edu>; UA Senate<ua-senate@mit.edu>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Dining Idea Bank
> >>>> The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof.
> >>>> M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation
> pending
> >>>> EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. It would not be
> implemented
> >>>> until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn'=
t
> be
> >>>> next year. Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." As far as I can tell it =
is
> still
> >>>> probably cause for concern, unless a senior admin unilaterally
> rejected the
> >>>> idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it did happen).
> >>>> Ted
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote=
:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happened
> >>>>> yet." As far as I know, that means it probably won't take effect
> next year,
> >>>>> but it's not off the table by any means.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -hwkns
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task
> Force
> >>>>>> report? If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be grea=
t
> news. I
> >>>>>> was not able to attend that meeting. Please discuss further.
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Ted
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -hwkns
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing
> cleared
> >>>>>>>> up during the last Senate Meeting. Did Bennie not say those
> claims are
> >>>>>>>> false and it will not happen?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Senate,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to =
go
> >>>>>>>>> check out the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on
> someone else's
> >>>>>>>>> whacky solutions.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the
> >>>>>>>>> decisions that come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As
> >>>>>>>>> representatives of your living groups and the student body at
> large, you
> >>>>>>>>> have a responsibility to get involved with this issue--especial=
ly
> when the
> >>>>>>>>> admin makes it so easy to put your ideas out there.
> >>>>>>>>> I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT
> because
> >>>>>>>>> you're incapable of independent thought, so please go do your
> jobs and tell
> >>>>>>>>> HDAG what students want.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Alex Jordan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Addressed to the list in general:
> >>>>>>>>>> <jargon>
> >>>>>>>>>> Someone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You> should make a
> >>>>>>>>>> JS-enabled frameset and host it on the UA website if the staff
> for the site
> >>>>>>>>>> is not too excited about adding a ranking system; essentially
> you have an
> >>>>>>>>>> upper frame (10% of the screen) with stars/rating system, the
> lower frame
> >>>>>>>>>> (90%) shows the IdeaBank site. You should always be able to fi=
nd
> the current
> >>>>>>>>>> url of the lower frame and reading the links on that page give=
s
> you the user
> >>>>>>>>>> that's currently logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Sto=
re
> the ratings
> >>>>>>>>>> in a database and you've got yourself some statistics. The onl=
y
> issue would
> >>>>>>>>>> be advertising the site so that people can use it.
> >>>>>>>>>> </jargon>
> >>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be
> >>>>>>>>>> weighed against the potential political fallout. Also, I don't
> actually have
> >>>>>>>>>> the time to do this.
> >>>>>>>>>> Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link
> >>>>>>>>>> <
> https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-=
proposal-committee-recommendations
> >]
> >>>>>>>>>> (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about
> his "idea"
> >>>>>>>>>> and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. If the=
re
> was ever an
> >>>>>>>>>> appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Jont=E9 Craighead
> >>>>>>>>>> Concerned Undergrad from Next House
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> RE Rating System. From Tom Gearty: "
> >>>>>>>>>>> I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I
> hear
> >>>>>>>>>>> back."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by
> >>>>>>>>>>> then.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <amcrae@mit.edu
> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:amcrae@mit.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stars are for kirby and mario. On the other hand, why they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> master chiefs, I have no idea.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -"you are the weakest link" *splat*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.ed=
u
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been out for a matter of hours. Don't worry, my ideas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will make it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> up there soon. I also plan on making sure everything
> relevant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the DPC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparentl=
y
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> want to avoid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the tas=
k
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> force report
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?)=
,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and those ideas
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> could be rated with 1-5 stars. That seems to me like a ver=
y
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> important
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> feature that is currently missing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <
> bockelie@mit.edu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea
> bank
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't see many of your ideas. Do what you want
> outside
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HDAG,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee as well....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <
> hwkns@mit.edu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to thank those of you who contributed to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight. I was surprised at how many senators just didn'=
t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care. You
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than yo=
u
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student engagement. Maybe you should consider joining
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finboard instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate next time around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <
> hwkns@mit.edu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <hwkns@mit.edu <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Senate,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect of, "I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anythin=
g
> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point?" Maybe there is. While Colombo just wants this
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be over, I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the higher level administration actually wants to get i=
t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right. If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we give
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution tha=
t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can actually
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May. I've outlined an idea below that might work, and =
I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come =
up
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetin=
gs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes public.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Involve ALL undergrads. This change affects everyon=
e,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has ideas. Make a public moira list for discussion,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitor the list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raise=
d
> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. Not by the end of the wee=
k,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not as soon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. Now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on eac=
h
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in th=
e
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea Bank to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which they apply, and let student input continue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on eac=
h
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new idea
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, an=
d
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responses to any feedback on old ideas.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dining plan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of student input on each topic and t=
he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasoning
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the choice that was ultimately made.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
> >>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
> >>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> >>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
> >>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> __________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> MIT 2011
> >>>>>>>>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> >>>>>>>>> Political Science
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>
> >>>>>>>>> 916.813.7740
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________
> >> Alexandra Jordan
> >> MIT 2011
> >> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> >> Political Science
> >> amjordan@mit.edu
> >> 916.813.7740
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________
> >> Alexandra Jordan
> >> MIT 2011
> >> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> >> Political Science
> >> amjordan@mit.edu
> >> 916.813.7740
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Adam Bockelie
> 801.209.7233
> <bockelie@mit.edu>
>
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
> Class of 2011
>
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1. No one is asking for up/down ranking to replace written comments.=A0 The=
ranking system on the original Idea Bank did not replace or hinder written=
comments.=A0 The ranking system on the UA's feedback-gathering web sit=
e did not replace or hinder written comments.=A0 Without a ranking system, =
it will be very difficult and time-consuming to tell what the most popular =
ideas are, or even which ideas a majority of students think are reasonable.=
=A0 I don't suppose you'd tell me who argued against it so I could =
go=20
convince them?=A0 Did you discuss why rankings weren't a part of the Id=
ea Bank to begin=20
with?=A0 If they had been, I doubt anyone would have wasted time on that to=
pic...<br>
<br>2. Will you also discuss why DSL has been dragging its feet?=A0 I don&#=
39;t want the conversation to go, "Why are there no minutes on the web=
site?"=A0 "Oh, they'll be up tomorrow."=A0 "Oh, ok=
."=A0 Because it's NOT ok.=A0 With this ridiculously short time-li=
ne, it's important that everything happens in a timely manner, and when=
it doesn't, I want an explanation.<br>
<br>-hwkns<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:30 =
AM, Adam Bockelie <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu"=
target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">2. This is someth=
ing we are discussing at the next meeting.<br>
<br>
1. The final conclusion was that an up/down or ranking system would<br>
not be as meaningful as a written comment...depth of response was<br>
favored over breadth of responses. =A0This was a long fight...it took<br>
probably a third of the meeting. =A0Most of the other students didn't<b=
r>
have a strong opinion, a one or two were against the ranking/voting.<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns=
@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> What the fuck.<br>
><br>
> 1. That's retarded.=A0 Seriously, there is absolutely no good reas=
on not to<br>
> add that feature.<br>
> 2. I wondered how this decision could have been justified, so I looked=
for<br>
> the meeting minutes on the web site.=A0 They're not there.<br>
><br>
> -hwkns<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Alexandra Jordan <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> HDAG, for some totally misguided reason, decided against a thumbs<=
br>
>> up/thumbs down feature. So now we have to work extra hard to get s=
tudent<br>
>> feedback out there.<br>
>> Encourage your constituencies to go the website and participate, e=
ven if<br>
>> it's something as simple as a comment saying "yes."<=
br>
>> Alex<br>
>><br>
>> On Apr 9, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Alexandra Jordan wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> The Idea Bank is still open and looking for comments and new solut=
ions.<br>
>> Help out Adam and the other student reps on HDAG by representing y=
our<br>
>> constituencies:=A0<a href=3D"http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/i=
deas" target=3D"_blank">http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas</a>.<br>
>><br>
>> Alex<br>
>> On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Paul Baranay wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would al=
so<br>
>> highly recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA, cu=
rrently<br>
>> Duane Boning (<a href=3D"mailto:boning@mtl.mit.edu" target=3D"_bla=
nk">boning@mtl.mit.edu</a>). =A0Regardless of whether you are one of the<br=
>
>> student representatives on the committee or not, emailing him to v=
oice your<br>
>> concerns is always appropriate. =A0Similarly, keep your student<br=
>
>> representatives on CUAFA, whoever they end up being, accountable.<=
br>
>> Best,<br>
>> Paul<br>
>> P.S. =A0Perhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the m=
inutes of<br>
>> CUAFA's future/past discussions about the financial aid allowa=
nce for food<br>
>> to be made public. =A0Institute Committees in general have traditi=
onally been<br>
>> very resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transp=
arent,<br>
>> which makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antit=
rust laws<br>
>> that prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but p=
erhaps it<br>
>> would be possible to have an exception made for this specific case=
. =A0Asking<br>
>> Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaki=
ng with<br>
>> MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as =
well.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <<a href=3D"mailto:thi=
lk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thilk@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Of course -- it's not a short-term matter, since it's =
tied to the meal<br>
>>> plan discussions. =A0Thanks for the information on the current=
situation. =A0I'm<br>
>>> actually trying for a spot on CUAFA precisely because of what =
my research<br>
>>> uncovered on this issue -- I am very interested in making sure=
that students<br>
>>> are properly represented when these decisions are made.<br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Ted<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <<a href=3D"=
mailto:mbennie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">mbennie@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br=
>
>>>><br>
>>>> It hasn't happened yet. My understanding is that the f=
inancial allowance<br>
>>>> for food was reduced only slightly this year (on the order=
of $100). It<br>
>>>> doesn't appear that financial aid for food will be sig=
nificantly reduced in<br>
>>>> the short run.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President =
Hockfield has<br>
>>>> been very open about her commitment to financial aid (alth=
ough that is the<br>
>>>> larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears th=
at the student<br>
>>>> reps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make su=
re the student<br>
>>>> reps we approve for next year are informed on this issue.<=
br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -Mike<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>> From: Ted Hilk <<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@MIT.EDU" target=
=3D"_blank">thilk@MIT.EDU</a>><br>
>>>> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400<br>
>>>> To: <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank"=
>hwkns@mit.edu</a>><br>
>>>> Cc: Paul Youchak<<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.edu" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>>; Alexandra Jordan<<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a>>;<br>
>>>> Jont=C3=A9 Craighead<<a href=3D"mailto:jontec@mit.edu" =
target=3D"_blank">jontec@mit.edu</a>>; Adam Bockelie<<a href=3D"mailt=
o:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>; Austen W<br=
>
>>>> McRae<<a href=3D"mailto:amcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blan=
k">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>; UA Senate<<a href=3D"mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu=
" target=3D"_blank">ua-senate@mit.edu</a>><br>
>>>> Subject: Re: Dining Idea Bank<br>
>>>> The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talke=
d to Prof.<br>
>>>> M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for impl=
ementation pending<br>
>>>> EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. =A0It would n=
ot be implemented<br>
>>>> until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so th=
at wouldn't be<br>
>>>> next year. =A0Ergo it "hasn't happened yet."=
=A0As far as I can tell it is still<br>
>>>> probably cause for concern, unless a senior admin unilater=
ally rejected the<br>
>>>> idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it did happen=
).<br>
>>>> Ted<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=
=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br=
>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "th=
at hasn't happened<br>
>>>>> yet."=A0 As far as I know, that means it probably=
won't take effect next year,<br>
>>>>> but it's not off the table by any means.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> -hwkns<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <<a href=
=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thilk@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br=
>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductio=
ns in the Task Force<br>
>>>>>> report? =A0If Bennie said they weren't happeni=
ng, that would be great news. =A0I<br>
>>>>>> was not able to attend that meeting. =A0Please dis=
cuss further.<br>
>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>>> Ted<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>> w=
rote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> What financial thing, what claims, what won=
9;t happen?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> -hwkns<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</=
a>><br>
>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> I was under the impression we had the whol=
e financial thing cleared<br>
>>>>>>>> up during the last Senate Meeting. =A0Did =
Bennie not say those claims are<br>
>>>>>>>> false and it will not happen?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Paul<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Senate,<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> I will probably keep reminding you all=
every 24 hours or so to go<br>
>>>>>>>>> check out the idea bank, even if it=
9;s simply to comment on someone else's<br>
>>>>>>>>> whacky solutions.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> This is important to ALL of your const=
ituencies, whether the<br>
>>>>>>>>> decisions that come out of HDAG impact=
them directly or not. As<br>
>>>>>>>>> representatives of your living groups =
and the student body at large, you<br>
>>>>>>>>> have a responsibility to get involved =
with this issue--especially when the<br>
>>>>>>>>> admin makes it so easy to put your ide=
as out there.<br>
>>>>>>>>> I know you're not investing four y=
ears and $200,000 at MIT because<br>
>>>>>>>>> you're incapable of independent th=
ought, so please go do your jobs and tell<br>
>>>>>>>>> HDAG what students want.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Alex Jordan<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Cr=
aighead wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Addressed to the list in general:<=
br>
>>>>>>>>>> <jargon><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Someone <<a href=3D"http://en.w=
ikipedia.org/wiki/You" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You</=
a>> should make a<br>
>>>>>>>>>> JS-enabled frameset and host it on=
the UA website if the staff for the site<br>
>>>>>>>>>> is not too excited about adding a =
ranking system; essentially you have an<br>
>>>>>>>>>> upper frame (10% of the screen) wi=
th stars/rating system, the lower frame<br>
>>>>>>>>>> (90%) shows the IdeaBank site. You=
should always be able to find the current<br>
>>>>>>>>>> url of the lower frame and reading=
the links on that page gives you the user<br>
>>>>>>>>>> that's currently logged in (i.=
e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the ratings<br>
>>>>>>>>>> in a database and you've got y=
ourself some statistics. The only issue would<br>
>>>>>>>>>> be advertising the site so that pe=
ople can use it.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> </jargon><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This is a proof of con=
cept and a last resort to be<br>
>>>>>>>>>> weighed against the potential poli=
tical fallout. Also, I don't actually have<br>
>>>>>>>>>> the time to do this.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Update: I am glad Adam has already=
asked about this.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> *geofft posted his request on the =
IdeaBank *[link<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <<a href=3D"https://ideabank-ho=
usedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-committee-re=
commendations" target=3D"_blank">https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas=
/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-committee-recommendations</a>>]<=
br>
>>>>>>>>>> (concerning the DPC Report) and th=
en e-mailed next-forum about his "idea"<br>
>>>>>>>>>> and the IdeaBank itself, encouragi=
ng us to take a look. If there was ever an<br>
>>>>>>>>>> appropriate use for a (house)-foru=
m list... this is it.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Jont=E9 Craighead<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Concerned Undergrad from Next Hous=
e<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam B=
ockelie wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> RE Rating System. =A0From Tom =
Gearty: "<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will email IS&T to find =
out and let you know as soon as I hear<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> back."<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll ask about it Thurs ni=
ght if I haven't heard anything by<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> then.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM=
, Austen McRae <<a href=3D"mailto:amcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcr=
ae@mit.edu</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:a=
mcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stars are for kirby and ma=
rio. =A0On the other hand, why they<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> master chiefs, I have no i=
dea.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -"you are the weakest=
link" *splat*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:0=
8 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank"=
>hwkns@mit.edu</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
to:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been out for =
a matter of hours. =A0Don't worry, my ideas<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will make it<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up there soon. =A0I al=
so plan on making sure everything relevant<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the DPC<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> report makes it on the=
re in idea form, since they apparently<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to avoid<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning it.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm with Paul - th=
is is the same site they used for the task<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> force report<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (why the eff did it ta=
ke so long to get in up and running?),<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and those ideas<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be rated with 1-=
5 stars. =A0That seems to me like a very<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> important<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature that is curren=
tly missing.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at=
7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_=
blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>> wro=
te:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those of you w=
ho did have strong opinions...the idea bank<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't se=
e many of your ideas. =A0Do what you want outside<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HDAG,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it doesn't=
make sense to not use an official input to the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee as well.=
...<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [<a href=3D"http:/=
/ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas" target=3D"_blank">http://ideabank-hous=
edining.mit.edu/ideas</a>]<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 201=
0 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D=
"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote=
:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to than=
k those of you who contributed to the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on =
this<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight. =A0I =
was surprised at how many senators just didn't<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care. =A0You<b=
r>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were more voca=
l about the MIT EMS money last week than you<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were about<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student engage=
ment. =A0Maybe you should consider joining<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finboard inste=
ad<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate next ti=
me around.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5,=
2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" targe=
t=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> w=
rote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached i=
s a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Ap=
r 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<=
a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>>=
wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sen=
ate,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot =
of you have e-mailed me and said something to the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect=
of, "I<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree,=
this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do=
at<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this<b=
r>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point?=
" =A0Maybe there is. =A0While Colombo just wants this to<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ove=
r, I<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think<=
br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hi=
gher level administration actually wants to get it<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right.=
=A0If<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we giv=
e<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them a=
plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We nee=
d to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can ac=
tually<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorp=
orate student input AND reach a final decision by the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second=
<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week o=
f<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May. =
=A0I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encour=
age<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to=
<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply-=
all and tell me what you think about it, or come up<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with y=
our<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own<br=
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea.<=
br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Tak=
e minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ma=
ke<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the<br=
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute=
s public.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Inv=
olve ALL undergrads. =A0This change affects everyone,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and<br=
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyo=
ne<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has id=
eas. =A0Make a public moira list for discussion,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monito=
r the list<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freque=
ntly, and respond to questions and concerns raised by<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studen=
ts.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set=
up the Idea Bank NOW. =A0Not by the end of the week,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not as=
soon<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you ca=
n make it look as pretty as you want it to. =A0Now.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. By =
April 16, publish a document that includes all<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positi=
vely-rated<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas =
from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea<b=
r>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explai=
ning<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whethe=
r you plan to implement it and why or why not.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add=
the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea B=
ank to<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which =
they apply, and let student input continue.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. By =
April 30, publish a document that includes all<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positi=
vely-rated<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas =
from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new id=
ea<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explai=
ning<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whethe=
r you plan to implement it and why or why not, and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with<b=
r>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detail=
ed<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respon=
ses to any feedback on old ideas.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. By =
May 14, publish a document that outlines the new<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dining=
plan<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and<br=
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includ=
es a summary of student input on each topic and the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason=
ing<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind=
<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ch=
oice that was ultimately made.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns=
<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>=
><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Inst=
itute of Technology<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civi=
l and Environmental Engineering<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie=
@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
to:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Tec=
hnology<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Enviro=
nmental Engineering<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> __________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> MIT 2011<br>
>>>>>>>>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Scie=
nce<br>
>>>>>>>>> Political Science<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>> 916.813.7740<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> __________________________________<br>
>> Alexandra Jordan<br>
>> MIT 2011<br>
>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science<br>
>> Political Science<br>
>> <a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit=
.edu</a><br>
>> 916.813.7740<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> __________________________________<br>
>> Alexandra Jordan<br>
>> MIT 2011<br>
>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science<br>
>> Political Science<br>
>> <a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit=
.edu</a><br>
>> 916.813.7740<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div>--<br>
<div>Adam Bockelie<br>
801.209.7233<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu<=
/a>><br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div>Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br>
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br>
Class of 2011<br>
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