[603] in UA Senate
Re: Dining Idea Bank
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Hawkins)
Sun Apr 11 02:32:56 2010
Reply-To: hwkns@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <FBFFCA1E-1832-4986-A287-F80AC2599B19@mit.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 02:32:51 -0400
From: Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@MIT.EDU>
To: Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>
Cc: Paul Baranay <pbaranay@mit.edu>, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu>, mbennie@mit.edu,
Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>,
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>, Austen W McRae <amcrae@mit.edu>,
UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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What the fuck.
1. That's retarded. Seriously, there is absolutely no good reason not to
add that feature.
2. I wondered how this decision could have been justified, so I looked for
the meeting minutes on the web site. They're not there.
-hwkns
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu> wrote:
> HDAG, for some totally misguided reason, decided against a thumbs up/thum=
bs
> down feature. So now we have to work extra hard to get student feedback o=
ut
> there.
>
> Encourage your constituencies to go the website and participate, even if
> it's something as simple as a comment saying "yes."
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>
> The Idea Bank is still open and looking for comments and new solutions.
>
> Help out Adam and the other student reps on HDAG by representing your
> constituencies: http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas.
>
>
> Alex
>
> On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Paul Baranay wrote:
>
> For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would also high=
ly
> recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA, currently Duane
> Boning (boning@mtl.mit.edu). Regardless of whether you are one of the
> student representatives on the committee or not, emailing him to voice yo=
ur
> concerns is always appropriate. Similarly, keep your student
> representatives on CUAFA, whoever they end up being, accountable.
>
> Best,
> Paul
>
> P.S. Perhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the minutes of
> CUAFA's future/past discussions about the financial aid allowance for foo=
d
> to be made public. Institute Committees in general have traditionally be=
en
> very resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transparent,
> which makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antitrust la=
ws
> that prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but perhaps =
it
> would be possible to have an exception made for this specific case. Aski=
ng
> Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaking with
> MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as well.
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Of course -- it's not a short-term matter, since it's tied to the meal
>> plan discussions. Thanks for the information on the current situation. =
I'm
>> actually trying for a spot on CUAFA precisely because of what my researc=
h
>> uncovered on this issue -- I am very interested in making sure that stud=
ents
>> are properly represented when these decisions are made.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <mbennie@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> It hasn't happened yet. My understanding is that the financial allowanc=
e
>>> for food was reduced only slightly this year (on the order of $100). It
>>> doesn't appear that financial aid for food will be significantly reduce=
d in
>>> the short run.
>>>
>>> We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President Hockfield has
>>> been very open about her commitment to financial aid (although that is =
the
>>> larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears that the studen=
t
>>> reps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make sure the studen=
t
>>> reps we approve for next year are informed on this issue.
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU>
>>> *Date: *Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400
>>> *To: *<hwkns@mit.edu>
>>> *Cc: *Paul Youchak<youchakp@mit.edu>; Alexandra Jordan<amjordan@mit.edu=
>;
>>> Jont=C3=A9 Craighead<jontec@mit.edu>; Adam Bockelie<bockelie@mit.edu>;
>>> Austen W McRae<amcrae@mit.edu>; UA Senate<ua-senate@mit.edu>
>>> *Subject: *Re: Dining Idea Bank
>>>
>>> The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof.
>>> M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pe=
nding
>>> EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. It would not be implement=
ed
>>> until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn't b=
e
>>> next year. Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." As far as I can tell it is =
still
>>> probably cause for concern, unless a senior admin unilaterally rejected=
the
>>> idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it did happen).
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happened
>>>> yet." As far as I know, that means it probably won't take effect next=
year,
>>>> but it's not off the table by any means.
>>>>
>>>> -hwkns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Forc=
e
>>>>> report? If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great n=
ews. I
>>>>> was not able to attend that meeting. Please discuss further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>wrote=
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing cleared
>>>>>>> up during the last Senate Meeting. Did Bennie not say those claims=
are
>>>>>>> false and it will not happen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Senate,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go
>>>>>>>> check out the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone=
else's
>>>>>>>> whacky solutions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the
>>>>>>>> decisions that come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As
>>>>>>>> representatives of your living groups and the student body at larg=
e, you
>>>>>>>> have a responsibility to get involved with this issue--especially =
when the
>>>>>>>> admin makes it so easy to put your ideas out there.
>>>>>>>> I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because
>>>>>>>> you're incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs=
and tell
>>>>>>>> HDAG what students want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex Jordan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Addressed to the list in general:
>>>>>>>>> <jargon>
>>>>>>>>> Someone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You> should make a
>>>>>>>>> JS-enabled frameset and host it on the UA website if the staff fo=
r the site
>>>>>>>>> is not too excited about adding a ranking system; essentially you=
have an
>>>>>>>>> upper frame (10% of the screen) with stars/rating system, the low=
er frame
>>>>>>>>> (90%) shows the IdeaBank site. You should always be able to find =
the current
>>>>>>>>> url of the lower frame and reading the links on that page gives y=
ou the user
>>>>>>>>> that's currently logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store =
the ratings
>>>>>>>>> in a database and you've got yourself some statistics. The only i=
ssue would
>>>>>>>>> be advertising the site so that people can use it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> </jargon>
>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be
>>>>>>>>> weighed against the potential political fallout. Also, I don't ac=
tually have
>>>>>>>>> the time to do this.
>>>>>>>>> Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <
>>>>>>>>> https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement=
-dining-proposal-committee-recommendations>]
>>>>>>>>> (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about hi=
s "idea"
>>>>>>>>> and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. If there =
was ever an
>>>>>>>>> appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Jont=E9 Craighead
>>>>>>>>> Concerned Undergrad from Next House
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RE Rating System. From Tom Gearty: "
>>>>>>>>>> I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear
>>>>>>>>>> back."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by the=
n.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <amcrae@mit.edu<mai=
lto:
>>>>>>>>>> amcrae@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stars are for kirby and mario. On the other hand, why they don=
't
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> master chiefs, I have no idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -"you are the weakest link" *splat*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<m=
ailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been out for a matter of hours. Don't worry, my ideas wi=
ll
>>>>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>>>>> up there soon. I also plan on making sure everything relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the DPC
>>>>>>>>>>>> report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to avoid
>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task
>>>>>>>>>>>> force report
>>>>>>>>>>>> (why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), a=
nd
>>>>>>>>>>>> those ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>> could be rated with 1-5 stars. That seems to me like a very
>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature that is currently missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.ed=
u<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>> bockelie@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't see many of your ideas. Do what you want outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HDAG,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee as well....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu=
<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to thank those of you who contributed to the discussi=
on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight. I was surprised at how many senators just didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student engagement. Maybe you should consider joining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finboard instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate next time around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.ed=
u<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Senate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect of, "I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything w=
e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point?" Maybe there is. While Colombo just wants this to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be over, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the higher level administration actually wants to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that c=
an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by th=
e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May. I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Involve ALL undergrads. This change affects everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has ideas. Make a public moira list for discussion, monit=
or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised b=
y
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. Not by the end of the week,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not as soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. Now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea Bank to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which they apply, and let student input continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each n=
ew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responses to any feedback on old ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dining plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of student input on each topic and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the choice that was ultimately made.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> __________________________________
>>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MIT 2011
>>>>>>>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
>>>>>>>> Political Science
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>
>>>>>>>> 916.813.7740
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> __________________________________
> Alexandra Jordan
>
> MIT 2011
> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> Political Science
>
> amjordan@mit.edu
> 916.813.7740
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Alexandra Jordan
>
> MIT 2011
> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> Political Science
>
> amjordan@mit.edu
> 916.813.7740
>
>
>
>
>
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What the fuck.<br><br>1. That's retarded.=A0 Seriously, there is absolu=
tely no good reason not to add that feature.<br>2. I wondered how this deci=
sion could have been justified, so I looked for the meeting minutes on the =
web site.=A0 They're not there.<br>
<br>-hwkns<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:19 A=
M, Alexandra Jordan <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.ed=
u">amjordan@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204=
, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">HDAG, for some totally misguided reas=
on, decided against a thumbs up/thumbs down feature. So now we have to work=
extra hard to get student feedback out there.<div><br></div><div>Encourage=
your constituencies to go the website and participate, even if it's so=
mething as simple as a comment saying "yes."</div>
<div><br></div><div>Alex</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></=
div><div><br><div><div><div>On Apr 9, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Alexandra Jordan wr=
ote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word=
;">
The Idea Bank is still open and looking for comments and new solutions.=A0<=
div><br></div><div>Help out Adam and the other student reps on HDAG by repr=
esenting your constituencies:=A0<a href=3D"http://ideabank-housedining.mit.=
edu/ideas" target=3D"_blank">http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas</a>.=
</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Alex=A0</div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 8=
, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Paul Baranay wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
>For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would also highl=
y recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA, currently Duane =
Boning (<a href=3D"mailto:boning@mtl.mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">boning@mtl.=
mit.edu</a>). =A0Regardless of whether you are one of the student represent=
atives on the committee or not, emailing him to voice your concerns is alwa=
ys appropriate. =A0Similarly, keep your student representatives on CUAFA, w=
hoever they end up being, accountable.<div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. =A0=
Perhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the minutes of CUAFA&#=
39;s future/past discussions about the financial aid allowance for food to =
be made public. =A0Institute Committees in general have traditionally been =
very resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transparent, wh=
ich makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antitrust laws t=
hat prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but perhaps it =
would be possible to have an exception made for this specific case. =A0Aski=
ng Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaking wit=
h MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as well.<b=
r>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thil=
k@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
Of course -- it's not a short-term matter, since it's tied to the m=
eal plan discussions. =A0Thanks for the information on the current situatio=
n. =A0I'm actually trying for a spot on CUAFA precisely because of what=
my research uncovered on this issue -- I am very interested in making sure=
that students are properly represented when these decisions are made.<div>
<br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><div>Ted<font color=3D"#888888"><br><br><=
/font></div><div><div></div><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu=
, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m=
ailto:mbennie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">mbennie@mit.edu</a>></span> wro=
te:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> It hasn't=
happened yet. My understanding is that the financial allowance for food wa=
s reduced only slightly this year (on the order of $100). It doesn't ap=
pear that financial aid for food will be significantly reduced in the short=
run. <br>
<br>We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President Hockfield ha=
s been very open about her commitment to financial aid (although that is th=
e larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears that the student =
reps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make sure the student re=
ps we approve for next year are informed on this issue.<br>
<br>-Mike<br><p>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</p><hr><div><b>Fr=
om: </b> Ted Hilk <<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@MIT.EDU" target=3D"_blank">th=
ilk@MIT.EDU</a>> </div><div><b>Date: </b>Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400<=
/div>
<div><b>To: </b><<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkn=
s@mit.edu</a>></div><div><b>Cc: </b>Paul Youchak<<a href=3D"mailto:yo=
uchakp@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>>; Alexandra Jorda=
n<<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu=
</a>>; Jont=C3=A9 Craighead<<a href=3D"mailto:jontec@mit.edu" target=
=3D"_blank">jontec@mit.edu</a>>; Adam Bockelie<<a href=3D"mailto:bock=
elie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>; Austen W McRae<=
;<a href=3D"mailto:amcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>=
; UA Senate<<a href=3D"mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">ua-se=
nate@mit.edu</a>></div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: Dining Idea Bank</div><div><div></div><div><div><=
br></div>The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Pro=
f. M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pen=
ding EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. =A0It would not be implem=
ented until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn&#=
39;t be next year. =A0Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." =A0As fa=
r as I can tell it is still probably cause for concern, unless a senior adm=
in unilaterally rejected the idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if i=
t did happen).<div>
<br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Ap=
r 8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailt=
o:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border=
-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happen=
ed yet."=A0 As far as I know, that means it probably won't take ef=
fect next year, but it's not off the table by any means.<br><br>-hwkns<=
div>
<div></div><div><br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at=
2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" t=
arget=3D"_blank">thilk@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid=
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Force rep=
ort? =A0If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great news=
. =A0I was not able to attend that meeting. =A0Please discuss further.<div>=
<br>
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ted</div><div><div></div><div><div><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns=
@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> What financial =
thing, what claims, what won't happen?<br><br>-hwkns<div><div></div><di=
v>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul You=
chak <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.edu" target=3D"_b=
lank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing cleared up duri=
ng the last Senate Meeting. =A0Did Bennie not say those claims are false an=
d it will not happen?<br> <br> Paul<br> <br> Alexandra Jordan wrote:<br> <b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-=
left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> Senate,<br> <br> I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hour=
s or so to go check out the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment o=
n someone else's whacky solutions.<br> <br> This is important to ALL of=
your constituencies, whether the decisions that come out of HDAG impact th=
em directly or not. As representatives of your living groups and the studen=
t body at large, you have a responsibility to get involved with this issue-=
-especially when the admin makes it so easy to put your ideas out there. <b=
r>
I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because you=
're incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs and tel=
l HDAG what students want. <br> <br> Alex Jordan<br> <br> <br> On Apr 6, 20=
10, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:<br>
<br> </div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>=
Addressed to the list in general:<br> <jargon><br></div> Someone <=
;<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You" target=3D"_blank">http://en.w=
ikipedia.org/wiki/You</a>> should make a JS-enabled frameset and host it=
on the UA website if the staff for the site is not too excited about addin=
g a ranking system; essentially you have an upper frame (10% of the screen)=
with stars/rating system, the lower frame (90%) shows the IdeaBank site. Y=
ou should always be able to find the current url of the lower frame and rea=
ding the links on that page gives you the user that's currently logged =
in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the ratings in a databas=
e and you've got yourself some statistics. The only issue would be adve=
rtising the site so that people can use it.<div>
<br> </jargon><br> Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last=
resort to be weighed against the potential political fallout. Also, I don&=
#39;t actually have the time to do this.<br> Update: I am glad Adam has alr=
eady asked about this.<br>
<br></div> *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <<a href=
=3D"https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dinin=
g-proposal-committee-recommendations" target=3D"_blank">https://ideabank-ho=
usedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-committee-re=
commendations</a>>] (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-f=
orum about his "idea" and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to =
take a look. If there was ever an appropriate use for a (house)-forum list.=
.. this is it.<div>
<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Jont=E9 Craighead<br> Concerned Undergrad from Next =
House<br> <br> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:<br> <br> </=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> RE Rating System. =A0From Tom Gearty: "<br> I will email IS&=
T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear back."<br> <br> I'=
;ll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by then.<br>
<br></div><div> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <<a href=
=3D"mailto:amcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a> <mailto:=
<a href=3D"mailto:amcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>&=
gt; wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div> Star=
s are for kirby and mario. =A0On the other hand, why they don't have<br=
> master chiefs, I have no idea.<br>
<br> -"you are the weakest link" *splat*<br> <br></div><div> On =
Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit=
.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:hwkn=
s@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div> <br>=
It's been out for a matter of hours. =A0Don't worry, my ideas will=
make it<br>
up there soon. =A0I also plan on making sure everything relevant from the =
DPC<br> report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently want t=
o avoid<br> mentioning it.<br> <br> I'm with Paul - this is the same si=
te they used for the task force report<br>
(why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), and those ide=
as<br> could be rated with 1-5 stars. =A0That seems to me like a very impor=
tant<br> feature that is currently missing.<br> <br> -hwkns<br> <br> <br>
<br></div><div> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <<a href=
=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a> <mai=
lto:<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu<=
/a>>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div> <br>=
For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank is open<br> =
and I don't see many of your ideas. =A0Do what you want outside HDAG,<b=
r>
but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the<br> comm=
ittee as well....<br> <br> [<a href=3D"http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/=
ideas" target=3D"_blank">http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas</a>]<br>
<br> <br></div><div> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <<a=
href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mail=
to:<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>=
> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div> I wa=
nt to thank those of you who contributed to the discussion on this<br> toni=
ght. =A0I was surprised at how many senators just didn't care. =A0You<b=
r>
guys<br> were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you were a=
bout<br> student engagement. =A0Maybe you should consider joining Finboard =
instead<br> of<br> Senate next time around.<br> <br> -hwkns<br> <br> <br>
<br></div><div> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=
=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> =
wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div> <br>=
Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.<br> <br> -hwkns<br=
>
<br></div><div><div></div><div> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Haw=
kins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</=
a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.=
edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> Hi Senate,=
<br> <br> A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the effect of=
, "I<br>
agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we can do at<br> =
this<br> point?" =A0Maybe there is. =A0While Colombo just wants this t=
o be over, I<br> think<br> the higher level administration actually wants t=
o get it right. =A0If<br>
we give<br> them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.<br> <b=
r> We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that can actually<br=
> incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by the second<br>
week of<br> May. =A0I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I=
encourage<br> you to<br> reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or=
come up with your<br> own<br> idea.<br> <br> 1. Take minutes (not summarie=
s, minutes) at HDAG meetings and make<br>
the<br> minutes public.<br> 2. Involve ALL undergrads. =A0This change affe=
cts everyone, and<br> everyone<br> has ideas. =A0Make a public moira list f=
or discussion, monitor the list<br> frequently, and respond to questions an=
d concerns raised by students.<br>
3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. =A0Not by the end of the week, not as soon<br=
> as<br> you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. =A0Now.<br> 4. B=
y April 16, publish a document that includes all positively-rated<br> ideas=
from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each idea<br>
explaining<br> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.<br> 5.=
Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the Idea Bank to<br> whi=
ch they apply, and let student input continue.<br> 6. By April 30, publish =
a document that includes all positively-rated<br>
ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each new idea<br> expl=
aining<br> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and with<br=
> detailed<br> responses to any feedback on old ideas.<br> 7. By May 14, pu=
blish a document that outlines the new dining plan<br>
and<br> includes a summary of student input on each topic and the reasonin=
g<br> behind<br> the choice that was ultimately made.<br> <br> -hwkns<br> <=
/blockquote> <br> </div></div></blockquote> <br> <br> </blockquote><div>
<div></div><div> <br> <br> <br> --<br> Adam Bockelie<br> 801.209.7233<br></=
div></div> <<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockel=
ie@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_bl=
ank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>><div>
<br> <br> Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br> Department of Civil and=
Environmental Engineering<br> Class of 2011<br> </div></blockquote> <br> <=
/blockquote> <br> <br> </blockquote><div> <br> <br> <br> -- <br> Adam Bocke=
lie<br>
801.209.7233<br></div> <<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_=
blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" =
target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>><div><br> <br> Massachusetts =
Institute of Technology<br>
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br> Class of 2011<br> </=
div></blockquote> <br> </blockquote><div> <br> ____________________________=
______<br> Alexandra Jordan<br> <br> MIT 2011<br> Earth, Atmospheric, and P=
lanetary Science<br>
Political Science<br> <br> </div><a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" targe=
t=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit=
.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a>><br> 916.813.7740<br> <br> =
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