[594] in UA Senate
Re: Dining Idea Bank
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Austen McRae)
Thu Apr 8 13:06:25 2010
In-Reply-To: <t2p71c951391004080904gb3edc5bp6974409e5a63b0fb@mail.gmail.com>
From: Austen McRae <amcrae@MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:06:02 -0400
To: Paul Baranay <pbaranay@mit.edu>
Cc: Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu>, mbennie@mit.edu, hwkns@mit.edu,
Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>, Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>,
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>, UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS!
Bestest,
legs are still there
2010/4/8 Paul Baranay <pbaranay@mit.edu>
> For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would also high=
ly
> recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA, currently Duane
> Boning (boning@mtl.mit.edu). Regardless of whether you are one of the
> student representatives on the committee or not, emailing him to voice yo=
ur
> concerns is always appropriate. Similarly, keep your student
> representatives on CUAFA, whoever they end up being, accountable.
>
> Best,
> Paul
>
> P.S. Perhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the minutes of
> CUAFA's future/past discussions about the financial aid allowance for foo=
d
> to be made public. Institute Committees in general have traditionally be=
en
> very resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transparent,
> which makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antitrust la=
ws
> that prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but perhaps =
it
> would be possible to have an exception made for this specific case. Aski=
ng
> Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaking with
> MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as well.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Of course -- it's not a short-term matter, since it's tied to the meal
>> plan discussions. Thanks for the information on the current situation. =
I'm
>> actually trying for a spot on CUAFA precisely because of what my researc=
h
>> uncovered on this issue -- I am very interested in making sure that stud=
ents
>> are properly represented when these decisions are made.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <mbennie@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> It hasn't happened yet. My understanding is that the financial allowanc=
e
>>> for food was reduced only slightly this year (on the order of $100). It
>>> doesn't appear that financial aid for food will be significantly reduce=
d in
>>> the short run.
>>>
>>> We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President Hockfield has
>>> been very open about her commitment to financial aid (although that is =
the
>>> larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears that the studen=
t
>>> reps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make sure the studen=
t
>>> reps we approve for next year are informed on this issue.
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU>
>>> *Date: *Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400
>>> *To: *<hwkns@mit.edu>
>>> *Cc: *Paul Youchak<youchakp@mit.edu>; Alexandra Jordan<amjordan@mit.edu=
>;
>>> Jont=C3=A9 Craighead<jontec@mit.edu>; Adam Bockelie<bockelie@mit.edu>;
>>> Austen W McRae<amcrae@mit.edu>; UA Senate<ua-senate@mit.edu>
>>> *Subject: *Re: Dining Idea Bank
>>>
>>> The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof.
>>> M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pe=
nding
>>> EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. It would not be implement=
ed
>>> until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn't b=
e
>>> next year. Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." As far as I can tell it is =
still
>>> probably cause for concern, unless a senior admin unilaterally rejected=
the
>>> idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it did happen).
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happened
>>>> yet." As far as I know, that means it probably won't take effect next=
year,
>>>> but it's not off the table by any means.
>>>>
>>>> -hwkns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Forc=
e
>>>>> report? If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great n=
ews. I
>>>>> was not able to attend that meeting. Please discuss further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>wrote=
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing cleared
>>>>>>> up during the last Senate Meeting. Did Bennie not say those claims=
are
>>>>>>> false and it will not happen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Senate,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go
>>>>>>>> check out the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone=
else's
>>>>>>>> whacky solutions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the
>>>>>>>> decisions that come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As
>>>>>>>> representatives of your living groups and the student body at larg=
e, you
>>>>>>>> have a responsibility to get involved with this issue--especially =
when the
>>>>>>>> admin makes it so easy to put your ideas out there.
>>>>>>>> I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because
>>>>>>>> you're incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs=
and tell
>>>>>>>> HDAG what students want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex Jordan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Addressed to the list in general:
>>>>>>>>> <jargon>
>>>>>>>>> Someone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You> should make a
>>>>>>>>> JS-enabled frameset and host it on the UA website if the staff fo=
r the site
>>>>>>>>> is not too excited about adding a ranking system; essentially you=
have an
>>>>>>>>> upper frame (10% of the screen) with stars/rating system, the low=
er frame
>>>>>>>>> (90%) shows the IdeaBank site. You should always be able to find =
the current
>>>>>>>>> url of the lower frame and reading the links on that page gives y=
ou the user
>>>>>>>>> that's currently logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store =
the ratings
>>>>>>>>> in a database and you've got yourself some statistics. The only i=
ssue would
>>>>>>>>> be advertising the site so that people can use it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> </jargon>
>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be
>>>>>>>>> weighed against the potential political fallout. Also, I don't ac=
tually have
>>>>>>>>> the time to do this.
>>>>>>>>> Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <
>>>>>>>>> https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement=
-dining-proposal-committee-recommendations>]
>>>>>>>>> (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about hi=
s "idea"
>>>>>>>>> and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. If there =
was ever an
>>>>>>>>> appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Jont=E9 Craighead
>>>>>>>>> Concerned Undergrad from Next House
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RE Rating System. From Tom Gearty: "
>>>>>>>>>> I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear
>>>>>>>>>> back."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by the=
n.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <amcrae@mit.edu<mai=
lto:
>>>>>>>>>> amcrae@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stars are for kirby and mario. On the other hand, why they don=
't
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> master chiefs, I have no idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -"you are the weakest link" *splat*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<m=
ailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been out for a matter of hours. Don't worry, my ideas wi=
ll
>>>>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>>>>> up there soon. I also plan on making sure everything relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the DPC
>>>>>>>>>>>> report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to avoid
>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task
>>>>>>>>>>>> force report
>>>>>>>>>>>> (why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), a=
nd
>>>>>>>>>>>> those ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>> could be rated with 1-5 stars. That seems to me like a very
>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature that is currently missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.ed=
u<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>> bockelie@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't see many of your ideas. Do what you want outside
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HDAG,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee as well....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu=
<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to thank those of you who contributed to the discussi=
on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight. I was surprised at how many senators just didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student engagement. Maybe you should consider joining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finboard instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate next time around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.ed=
u<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Senate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect of, "I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything w=
e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point?" Maybe there is. While Colombo just wants this to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be over, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the higher level administration actually wants to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that c=
an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by th=
e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May. I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Involve ALL undergrads. This change affects everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has ideas. Make a public moira list for discussion, monit=
or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised b=
y
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. Not by the end of the week,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not as soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. Now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idea Bank to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which they apply, and let student input continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each n=
ew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responses to any feedback on old ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dining plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of student input on each topic and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the choice that was ultimately made.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> __________________________________
>>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MIT 2011
>>>>>>>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
>>>>>>>> Political Science
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>
>>>>>>>> 916.813.7740
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS!<br><br>Bestest,<br>legs are still there<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/4/8 Paul Baranay <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:pbaranay@mit.edu">pbaranay@mit.edu</a>></span><br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1p=
x solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would also highly=
recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA, currently Duane B=
oning (<a href=3D"mailto:boning@mtl.mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">boning@mtl.m=
it.edu</a>). =A0Regardless of whether you are one of the student representa=
tives on the committee or not, emailing him to voice your concerns is alway=
s appropriate. =A0Similarly, keep your student representatives on CUAFA, wh=
oever they end up being, accountable.<div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. =A0P=
erhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the minutes of CUAFA=
9;s future/past discussions about the financial aid allowance for food to b=
e made public. =A0Institute Committees in general have traditionally been v=
ery resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transparent, whi=
ch makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antitrust laws th=
at prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but perhaps it w=
ould be possible to have an exception made for this specific case. =A0Askin=
g Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaking with=
MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as well.<di=
v>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thilk=
@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Of course -- it&#=
39;s not a short-term matter, since it's tied to the meal plan discussi=
ons. =A0Thanks for the information on the current situation. =A0I'm act=
ually trying for a spot on CUAFA precisely because of what my research unco=
vered on this issue -- I am very interested in making sure that students ar=
e properly represented when these decisions are made.<div>
<br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><div>Ted<font color=3D"#888888"><br><br></=
font></div><div><div></div><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu,=
Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:mbennie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">mbennie@mit.edu</a>></span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> It hasn't =
happened yet. My understanding is that the financial allowance for food was=
reduced only slightly this year (on the order of $100). It doesn't app=
ear that financial aid for food will be significantly reduced in the short =
run. <br>
<br>We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President Hockfield has=
been very open about her commitment to financial aid (although that is the=
larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears that the student r=
eps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make sure the student rep=
s we approve for next year are informed on this issue.<br>
<br>-Mike<br><p>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</p><hr><div><b>Fro=
m: </b> Ted Hilk <<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@MIT.EDU" target=3D"_blank">thi=
lk@MIT.EDU</a>>
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400</div><div><b>To: </b=
><<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>&g=
t;</div><div><b>Cc: </b>Paul Youchak<<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.edu"=
target=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>>; Alexandra Jordan<<a href=3D=
"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a>>; Jont=
=C3=A9 Craighead<<a href=3D"mailto:jontec@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">jon=
tec@mit.edu</a>>; Adam Bockelie<<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" t=
arget=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>; Austen W McRae<<a href=3D"mai=
lto:amcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>; UA Senate<=
<a href=3D"mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">ua-senate@mit.edu</a=
>></div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: Dining Idea Bank</div><div><div></div><div><div><b=
r></div>The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof=
. M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pend=
ing EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. =A0It would not be impleme=
nted until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn=
9;t be next year. =A0Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." =A0As far=
as I can tell it is still probably cause for concern, unless a senior admi=
n unilaterally rejected the idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it=
did happen).<div>
<br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr=
8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto=
:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-=
left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happene=
d yet."=A0 As far as I know, that means it probably won't take eff=
ect next year, but it's not off the table by any means.<br><br>-hwkns<d=
iv>
<div></div><div><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thilk=
@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Force repo=
rt? =A0If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great news.=
=A0I was not able to attend that meeting. =A0Please discuss further.<div><=
br>
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ted</div><div><div></div><div><div><br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@=
mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?<br><br>-hwkns<div=
><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at =
2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.=
edu" target=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I was under the i=
mpression we had the whole financial thing cleared up during the last Senat=
e Meeting. =A0Did Bennie not say those claims are false and it will not hap=
pen?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Alexandra Jordan wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
Senate,<br>
<br>
I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go check out=
the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone else's wh=
acky solutions.<br>
<br>
This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the decisions that=
come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As representatives of your l=
iving groups and the student body at large, you have a responsibility to ge=
t involved with this issue--especially when the admin makes it so easy to p=
ut your ideas out there. <br>
I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because you&=
#39;re incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs and tell=
HDAG what students want. <br>
<br>
Alex Jordan<br>
<br>
<br>
On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:<br>
<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
Addressed to the list in general:<br>
<jargon><br></div>
Someone <<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You" target=3D"_blank">=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You</a>> should make a JS-enabled frameset =
and host it on the UA website if the staff for the site is not too excited =
about adding a ranking system; essentially you have an upper frame (10% of =
the screen) with stars/rating system, the lower frame (90%) shows the IdeaB=
ank site. You should always be able to find the current url of the lower fr=
ame and reading the links on that page gives you the user that's curren=
tly logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the ratings i=
n a database and you've got yourself some statistics. The only issue wo=
uld be advertising the site so that people can use it.<div>
<br>
</jargon><br>
Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be weighed agai=
nst the potential political fallout. Also, I don't actually have the ti=
me to do this.<br>
Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.<br>
<br></div>
*geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <<a href=3D"https://id=
eabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-com=
mittee-recommendations" target=3D"_blank">https://ideabank-housedining.mit.=
edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-committee-recommendations<=
/a>>] (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about his=
"idea" and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. I=
f there was ever an appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.=
<div>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jont=E9 Craighead<br>
Concerned Undergrad from Next House<br>
<br>
On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:<br>
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RE Rating System. =A0From Tom Gearty: "<br>
I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear back.&=
quot;<br>
<br>
I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by then.<=
br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <<a href=3D"mailto:amcrae@m=
it.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:a=
mcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Stars are for kirby and mario. =A0On the other hand, why they don't hav=
e<br>
master chiefs, I have no idea.<br>
<br>
-"you are the weakest link" *splat*<br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<br>
It's been out for a matter of hours. =A0Don't worry, my ideas will =
make it<br>
up there soon. =A0I also plan on making sure everything relevant from the D=
PC<br>
report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently want to avoid<=
br>
mentioning it.<br>
<br>
I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task force repo=
rt<br>
(why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), and those idea=
s<br>
could be rated with 1-5 stars. =A0That seems to me like a very important<br=
>
feature that is currently missing.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <<a href=3D"mailto:bockeli=
e@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mai=
lto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:=
<br>
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<br>
For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank is open<br>
and I don't see many of your ideas. =A0Do what you want outside HDAG,<b=
r>
but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the<br>
committee as well....<br>
<br>
[<a href=3D"http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas</a>]<br>
<br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
I want to thank those of you who contributed to the discussion on this<br>
tonight. =A0I was surprised at how many senators just didn't care. =A0Y=
ou<br>
guys<br>
were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you were about<br>
student engagement. =A0Maybe you should consider joining Finboard instead<b=
r>
of<br>
Senate next time around.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></div><div>
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
<br>
Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br></div><div><div></div><div>
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Hi Senate,<br>
<br>
A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the effect of, "I<=
br>
agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we can do at<br>
this<br>
point?" =A0Maybe there is. =A0While Colombo just wants this to be over=
, I<br>
think<br>
the higher level administration actually wants to get it right. =A0If<br>
we give<br>
them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.<br>
<br>
We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that can actually<br>
incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by the second<br>
week of<br>
May. =A0I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I encourage<br=
>
you to<br>
reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up with your<br>
own<br>
idea.<br>
<br>
1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings and make<br>
the<br>
minutes public.<br>
2. Involve ALL undergrads. =A0This change affects everyone, and<br>
everyone<br>
has ideas. =A0Make a public moira list for discussion, monitor the list<br>
frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised by students.<br>
3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. =A0Not by the end of the week, not as soon<br>
as<br>
you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. =A0Now.<br>
4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all positively-rated<br>
ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each idea<br>
explaining<br>
whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.<br>
5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the Idea Bank to<br>
which they apply, and let student input continue.<br>
6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all positively-rated<br>
ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each new idea<br>
explaining<br>
whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and with<br>
detailed<br>
responses to any feedback on old ideas.<br>
7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new dining plan<br>
and<br>
includes a summary of student input on each topic and the reasoning<br>
behind<br>
the choice that was ultimately made.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
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--<br>
Adam Bockelie<br>
801.209.7233<br></div></div>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu<=
/a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockel=
ie@mit.edu</a>>><div><br>
<br>
Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br>
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br>
Class of 2011<br>
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<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Adam Bockelie<br>
801.209.7233<br></div>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu<=
/a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockel=
ie@mit.edu</a>>><div><br>
<br>
Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br>
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br>
Class of 2011<br>
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__________________________________<br>
Alexandra Jordan<br>
<br>
MIT 2011<br>
Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science<br>
Political Science<br>
<br>
</div><a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.ed=
u</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjo=
rdan@mit.edu</a>><br>
916.813.7740<br>
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