[593] in UA Senate
Re: Dining Idea Bank
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Baranay)
Thu Apr 8 12:04:47 2010
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From: Paul Baranay <pbaranay@MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:04:21 -0400
To: Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu>
Cc: mbennie@mit.edu, hwkns@mit.edu, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>,
Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>,
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>, Austen W McRae <amcrae@mit.edu>,
UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would also highly
recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA, currently Duane
Boning (boning@mtl.mit.edu). Regardless of whether you are one of the
student representatives on the committee or not, emailing him to voice your
concerns is always appropriate. Similarly, keep your student
representatives on CUAFA, whoever they end up being, accountable.
Best,
Paul
P.S. Perhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the minutes of
CUAFA's future/past discussions about the financial aid allowance for food
to be made public. Institute Committees in general have traditionally been
very resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transparent,
which makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antitrust laws
that prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but perhaps it
would be possible to have an exception made for this specific case. Asking
Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaking with
MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as well.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
> Of course -- it's not a short-term matter, since it's tied to the meal pl=
an
> discussions. Thanks for the information on the current situation. I'm
> actually trying for a spot on CUAFA precisely because of what my research
> uncovered on this issue -- I am very interested in making sure that stude=
nts
> are properly represented when these decisions are made.
>
> Thanks,
> Ted
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <mbennie@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> It hasn't happened yet. My understanding is that the financial allowance
>> for food was reduced only slightly this year (on the order of $100). It
>> doesn't appear that financial aid for food will be significantly reduced=
in
>> the short run.
>>
>> We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President Hockfield has
>> been very open about her commitment to financial aid (although that is t=
he
>> larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears that the student
>> reps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make sure the student
>> reps we approve for next year are informed on this issue.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU>
>> *Date: *Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400
>> *To: *<hwkns@mit.edu>
>> *Cc: *Paul Youchak<youchakp@mit.edu>; Alexandra Jordan<amjordan@mit.edu>=
;
>> Jont=C3=A9 Craighead<jontec@mit.edu>; Adam Bockelie<bockelie@mit.edu>; A=
usten
>> W McRae<amcrae@mit.edu>; UA Senate<ua-senate@mit.edu>
>> *Subject: *Re: Dining Idea Bank
>>
>> The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof.
>> M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pen=
ding
>> EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. It would not be implemente=
d
>> until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn't be
>> next year. Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." As far as I can tell it is s=
till
>> probably cause for concern, unless a senior admin unilaterally rejected =
the
>> idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it did happen).
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happened
>>> yet." As far as I know, that means it probably won't take effect next =
year,
>>> but it's not off the table by any means.
>>>
>>> -hwkns
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Force
>>>> report? If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great ne=
ws. I
>>>> was not able to attend that meeting. Please discuss further.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?
>>>>>
>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu> wrote=
:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing cleared =
up
>>>>>> during the last Senate Meeting. Did Bennie not say those claims are=
false
>>>>>> and it will not happen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Senate,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go
>>>>>>> check out the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone =
else's
>>>>>>> whacky solutions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the
>>>>>>> decisions that come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As
>>>>>>> representatives of your living groups and the student body at large=
, you
>>>>>>> have a responsibility to get involved with this issue--especially w=
hen the
>>>>>>> admin makes it so easy to put your ideas out there.
>>>>>>> I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because
>>>>>>> you're incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs =
and tell
>>>>>>> HDAG what students want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex Jordan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Addressed to the list in general:
>>>>>>>> <jargon>
>>>>>>>> Someone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You> should make a JS-enable=
d
>>>>>>>> frameset and host it on the UA website if the staff for the site i=
s not too
>>>>>>>> excited about adding a ranking system; essentially you have an upp=
er frame
>>>>>>>> (10% of the screen) with stars/rating system, the lower frame (90%=
) shows
>>>>>>>> the IdeaBank site. You should always be able to find the current u=
rl of the
>>>>>>>> lower frame and reading the links on that page gives you the user =
that's
>>>>>>>> currently logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the rati=
ngs in a
>>>>>>>> database and you've got yourself some statistics. The only issue w=
ould be
>>>>>>>> advertising the site so that people can use it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> </jargon>
>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be
>>>>>>>> weighed against the potential political fallout. Also, I don't act=
ually have
>>>>>>>> the time to do this.
>>>>>>>> Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <
>>>>>>>> https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-=
dining-proposal-committee-recommendations>]
>>>>>>>> (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about his=
"idea"
>>>>>>>> and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. If there w=
as ever an
>>>>>>>> appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Jont=E9 Craighead
>>>>>>>> Concerned Undergrad from Next House
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RE Rating System. From Tom Gearty: "
>>>>>>>>> I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear
>>>>>>>>> back."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by then=
.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <amcrae@mit.edu<mail=
to:
>>>>>>>>> amcrae@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stars are for kirby and mario. On the other hand, why they don'=
t
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> master chiefs, I have no idea.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -"you are the weakest link" *splat*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<ma=
ilto:
>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's been out for a matter of hours. Don't worry, my ideas wil=
l
>>>>>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>>>>>> up there soon. I also plan on making sure everything relevant
>>>>>>>>>>> from the DPC
>>>>>>>>>>> report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently wa=
nt
>>>>>>>>>>> to avoid
>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task
>>>>>>>>>>> force report
>>>>>>>>>>> (why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), an=
d
>>>>>>>>>>> those ideas
>>>>>>>>>>> could be rated with 1-5 stars. That seems to me like a very
>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>> feature that is currently missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu=
<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> bockelie@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank =
is
>>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't see many of your ideas. Do what you want outside
>>>>>>>>>>>> HDAG,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> committee as well....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<=
mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to thank those of you who contributed to the discussio=
n
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight. I was surprised at how many senators just didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> care. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you we=
re
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> student engagement. Maybe you should consider joining Finboa=
rd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate next time around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu=
<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.ed=
u<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Senate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect of, "I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point?" Maybe there is. While Colombo just wants this to =
be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the higher level administration actually wants to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that ca=
n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May. I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings a=
nd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Involve ALL undergrads. This change affects everyone, a=
nd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has ideas. Make a public moira list for discussion, monito=
r
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. Not by the end of the week, n=
ot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. Now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each id=
ea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the Id=
ea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bank to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which they apply, and let student input continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each ne=
w
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and wi=
th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responses to any feedback on old ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new dini=
ng
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of student input on each topic and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the choice that was ultimately made.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> __________________________________
>>>>>>> Alexandra Jordan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MIT 2011
>>>>>>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
>>>>>>> Political Science
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>
>>>>>>> 916.813.7740
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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For those concerned about financial aid and food costs, I would also highly=
recommend writing to or meeting with the chair of CUAFA, currently Duane B=
oning (<a href=3D"mailto:boning@mtl.mit.edu">boning@mtl.mit.edu</a>). =A0Re=
gardless of whether you are one of the student representatives on the commi=
ttee or not, emailing him to voice your concerns is always appropriate. =A0=
Similarly, keep your student representatives on CUAFA, whoever they end up =
being, accountable.<div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. =A0P=
erhaps it would be helpful if someone advocated for the minutes of CUAFA=
9;s future/past discussions about the financial aid allowance for food to b=
e made public. =A0Institute Committees in general have traditionally been v=
ery resistant to the idea of making their meetings totally transparent, whi=
ch makes sense for some aspects of CUAFA -- specifically, antitrust laws th=
at prevent universities from colluding on financial aid -- but perhaps it w=
ould be possible to have an exception made for this specific case. =A0Askin=
g Prof. Boning what he thinks would be a good first step, but speaking with=
MIT Counsel would probably be helpful (and, likely, necessary) as well.<br=
>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ted Hilk <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thilk=
@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Of course -- it's not a short-term matte=
r, since it's tied to the meal plan discussions. =A0Thanks for the info=
rmation on the current situation. =A0I'm actually trying for a spot on =
CUAFA precisely because of what my research uncovered on this issue -- I am=
very interested in making sure that students are properly represented when=
these decisions are made.<div>
<br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><div>Ted<font color=3D"#888888"><br><br></=
font></div><div><div></div><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu,=
Apr 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Michael Bennie <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:mbennie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">mbennie@mit.edu</a>></span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> It hasn't happened yet. My understand=
ing is that the financial allowance for food was reduced only slightly this=
year (on the order of $100). It doesn't appear that financial aid for =
food will be significantly reduced in the short run. <br>
<br>We have two strong allies on this issue. First, President Hockfield has=
been very open about her commitment to financial aid (although that is the=
larger issue not food specifically). Second, it appears that the student r=
eps on CUAFA have a major voice in this decision. Make sure the student rep=
s we approve for next year are informed on this issue.<br>
<br>-Mike<br><p>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</p><hr><div><b>Fro=
m: </b> Ted Hilk <<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@MIT.EDU" target=3D"_blank">thi=
lk@MIT.EDU</a>>
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:19:57 -0400</div><div><b>To: </b=
><<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>&g=
t;</div><div><b>Cc: </b>Paul Youchak<<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.edu"=
target=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>>; Alexandra Jordan<<a href=3D=
"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.edu</a>>; Jont=
=C3=A9 Craighead<<a href=3D"mailto:jontec@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">jon=
tec@mit.edu</a>>; Adam Bockelie<<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" t=
arget=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>; Austen W McRae<<a href=3D"mai=
lto:amcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>; UA Senate<=
<a href=3D"mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">ua-senate@mit.edu</a=
>></div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: Dining Idea Bank</div><div><div></div><div><div><b=
r></div>The last time I spoke to someone about it was when I talked to Prof=
. M=E9dard, who said at the time that it was slated for implementation pend=
ing EMG review, SFS specifics, and CUAFA review. =A0It would not be impleme=
nted until the new dining plan at the soonest, obviously, so that wouldn=
9;t be next year. =A0Ergo it "hasn't happened yet." =A0As far=
as I can tell it is still probably cause for concern, unless a senior admi=
n unilaterally rejected the idea (something Bennie may have mentioned if it=
did happen).<div>
<br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr=
8, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto=
:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I believe what Bennie said on that topic was, "that hasn't happene=
d yet."=A0 As far as I know, that means it probably won't take eff=
ect next year, but it's not off the table by any means.<br><br>-hwkns<d=
iv>
<div></div><div><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Ted Hilk <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:thilk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">thilk=
@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex">
Are you referring to the slated $1460 aid reductions in the Task Force repo=
rt? =A0If Bennie said they weren't happening, that would be great news.=
=A0I was not able to attend that meeting. =A0Please discuss further.<div><=
br>
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ted</div><div><div></div><div><div><br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Daniel Hawkins <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@=
mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
What financial thing, what claims, what won't happen?<br><br>-hwkns<div=
><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at =
2:09 AM, Paul Youchak <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:youchakp@mit.=
edu" target=3D"_blank">youchakp@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">I was under the impress=
ion we had the whole financial thing cleared up during the last Senate Meet=
ing. =A0Did Bennie not say those claims are false and it will not happen?<b=
r>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Alexandra Jordan wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Senate,<br>
<br>
I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go check out=
the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone else's wh=
acky solutions.<br>
<br>
This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the decisions that=
come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As representatives of your l=
iving groups and the student body at large, you have a responsibility to ge=
t involved with this issue--especially when the admin makes it so easy to p=
ut your ideas out there. <br>
I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because you&=
#39;re incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs and tell=
HDAG what students want. <br>
<br>
Alex Jordan<br>
<br>
<br>
On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:<br>
<br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Addressed to the list in general:<br>
<jargon><br></div>
Someone <<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You" target=3D"_blank">=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You</a>> should make a JS-enabled frameset =
and host it on the UA website if the staff for the site is not too excited =
about adding a ranking system; essentially you have an upper frame (10% of =
the screen) with stars/rating system, the lower frame (90%) shows the IdeaB=
ank site. You should always be able to find the current url of the lower fr=
ame and reading the links on that page gives you the user that's curren=
tly logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the ratings i=
n a database and you've got yourself some statistics. The only issue wo=
uld be advertising the site so that people can use it.<div>
<br>
</jargon><br>
Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be weighed agai=
nst the potential political fallout. Also, I don't actually have the ti=
me to do this.<br>
Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.<br>
<br></div>
*geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link <<a href=3D"https://id=
eabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-com=
mittee-recommendations" target=3D"_blank">https://ideabank-housedining.mit.=
edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-proposal-committee-recommendations<=
/a>>] (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about his=
"idea" and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. I=
f there was ever an appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... this is it.=
<div>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jont=E9 Craighead<br>
Concerned Undergrad from Next House<br>
<br>
On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:<br>
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RE Rating System. =A0From Tom Gearty: "<br>
I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear back.&=
quot;<br>
<br>
I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by then.<=
br>
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <<a href=3D"mailto:amcrae@m=
it.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:a=
mcrae@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amcrae@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Stars are for kirby and mario. =A0On the other hand, why they don't hav=
e<br>
master chiefs, I have no idea.<br>
<br>
-"you are the weakest link" *splat*<br>
<br></div><div>
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<br>
It's been out for a matter of hours. =A0Don't worry, my ideas will =
make it<br>
up there soon. =A0I also plan on making sure everything relevant from the D=
PC<br>
report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently want to avoid<=
br>
mentioning it.<br>
<br>
I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task force repo=
rt<br>
(why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), and those idea=
s<br>
could be rated with 1-5 stars. =A0That seems to me like a very important<br=
>
feature that is currently missing.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <<a href=3D"mailto:bockeli=
e@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mai=
lto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:=
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<br>
For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank is open<br>
and I don't see many of your ideas. =A0Do what you want outside HDAG,<b=
r>
but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the<br>
committee as well....<br>
<br>
[<a href=3D"http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas</a>]<br>
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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I want to thank those of you who contributed to the discussion on this<br>
tonight. =A0I was surprised at how many senators just didn't care. =A0Y=
ou<br>
guys<br>
were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you were about<br>
student engagement. =A0Maybe you should consider joining Finboard instead<b=
r>
of<br>
Senate next time around.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></div><div>
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<br>
Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
<br></div><div><div></div><div>
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins <<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
wkns@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Hi Senate,<br>
<br>
A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the effect of, "I<=
br>
agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we can do at<br>
this<br>
point?" =A0Maybe there is. =A0While Colombo just wants this to be over=
, I<br>
think<br>
the higher level administration actually wants to get it right. =A0If<br>
we give<br>
them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.<br>
<br>
We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that can actually<br>
incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by the second<br>
week of<br>
May. =A0I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I encourage<br=
>
you to<br>
reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up with your<br>
own<br>
idea.<br>
<br>
1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings and make<br>
the<br>
minutes public.<br>
2. Involve ALL undergrads. =A0This change affects everyone, and<br>
everyone<br>
has ideas. =A0Make a public moira list for discussion, monitor the list<br>
frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised by students.<br>
3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW. =A0Not by the end of the week, not as soon<br>
as<br>
you can make it look as pretty as you want it to. =A0Now.<br>
4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all positively-rated<br>
ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each idea<br>
explaining<br>
whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.<br>
5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the Idea Bank to<br>
which they apply, and let student input continue.<br>
6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all positively-rated<br>
ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each new idea<br>
explaining<br>
whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and with<br>
detailed<br>
responses to any feedback on old ideas.<br>
7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new dining plan<br>
and<br>
includes a summary of student input on each topic and the reasoning<br>
behind<br>
the choice that was ultimately made.<br>
<br>
-hwkns<br>
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Adam Bockelie<br>
801.209.7233<br></div></div>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu<=
/a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockel=
ie@mit.edu</a>>><div><br>
<br>
Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br>
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br>
Class of 2011<br>
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<br>
-- <br>
Adam Bockelie<br>
801.209.7233<br></div>
<<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockelie@mit.edu<=
/a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bockelie@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">bockel=
ie@mit.edu</a>>><div><br>
<br>
Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br>
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br>
Class of 2011<br>
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__________________________________<br>
Alexandra Jordan<br>
<br>
MIT 2011<br>
Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science<br>
Political Science<br>
<br>
</div><a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjordan@mit.ed=
u</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">amjo=
rdan@mit.edu</a>><br>
916.813.7740<br>
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