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Re: Dining Idea Bank

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexandra Jordan)
Thu Apr 8 02:12:44 2010

Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
        Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu>, Austen W McRae <amcrae@mit.edu>,
        Daniel D Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu>, UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
From: Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@MIT.EDU>
To: Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4BBD7322.4070902@mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 02:12:39 -0400

Are you referring to Ted's argument or my response to it or another =20
idea in the bank?

Alex

On Apr 8, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Paul Youchak wrote:

> I was under the impression we had the whole financial thing cleared =20=

> up during the last Senate Meeting.  Did Bennie not say those claims =20=

> are false and it will not happen?
>
> Paul
>
> Alexandra Jordan wrote:
>> Senate,
>>
>> I will probably keep reminding you all every 24 hours or so to go =20
>> check out the idea bank, even if it's simply to comment on someone =20=

>> else's whacky solutions.
>>
>> This is important to ALL of your constituencies, whether the =20
>> decisions that come out of HDAG impact them directly or not. As =20
>> representatives of your living groups and the student body at =20
>> large, you have a responsibility to get involved with this issue--=20
>> especially when the admin makes it so easy to put your ideas out =20
>> there.
>> I know you're not investing four years and $200,000 at MIT because =20=

>> you're incapable of independent thought, so please go do your jobs =20=

>> and tell HDAG what students want.
>>
>> Alex Jordan
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead wrote:
>>
>>> Addressed to the list in general:
>>> <jargon>
>>> Someone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You> should make a JS-=20
>>> enabled frameset and host it on the UA website if the staff for =20
>>> the site is not too excited about adding a ranking system; =20
>>> essentially you have an upper frame (10% of the screen) with stars/=20=

>>> rating system, the lower frame (90%) shows the IdeaBank site. You =20=

>>> should always be able to find the current url of the lower frame =20
>>> and reading the links on that page gives you the user that's =20
>>> currently logged in (i.e. mouse-over "My Account"). Store the =20
>>> ratings in a database and you've got yourself some statistics. The =20=

>>> only issue would be advertising the site so that people can use it.
>>> </jargon>
>>> Disclaimer: This is a proof of concept and a last resort to be =20
>>> weighed against the potential political fallout. Also, I don't =20
>>> actually have the time to do this.
>>> Update: I am glad Adam has already asked about this.
>>>
>>> *geofft posted his request on the IdeaBank *[link =
<https://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas/geofftmitedu/implement-dining-=
proposal-committee-recommendations=20
>>> >] (concerning the DPC Report) and then e-mailed next-forum about =20=

>>> his "idea" and the IdeaBank itself, encouraging us to take a look. =20=

>>> If there was ever an appropriate use for a (house)-forum list... =20
>>> this is it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jont=E9 Craighead
>>> Concerned Undergrad from Next House
>>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Adam Bockelie wrote:
>>>
>>>> RE Rating System.  =46rom Tom Gearty: "
>>>> I will email IS&T to find out and let you know as soon as I hear =20=

>>>> back."
>>>>
>>>> I'll ask about it Thurs night if I haven't heard anything by then.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Austen McRae <amcrae@mit.edu =
<mailto:amcrae@mit.edu=20
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> Stars are for kirby and mario.  On the other hand, why they =20
>>>>> don't have
>>>>> master chiefs, I have no idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> -"you are the weakest link" *splat*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu =
<mailto:hwkns@mit.edu=20
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's been out for a matter of hours.  Don't worry, my ideas =20
>>>>>> will make it
>>>>>> up there soon.  I also plan on making sure everything relevant =20=

>>>>>> from the DPC
>>>>>> report makes it on there in idea form, since they apparently =20
>>>>>> want to avoid
>>>>>> mentioning it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm with Paul - this is the same site they used for the task =20
>>>>>> force report
>>>>>> (why the eff did it take so long to get in up and running?), =20
>>>>>> and those ideas
>>>>>> could be rated with 1-5 stars.  That seems to me like a very =20
>>>>>> important
>>>>>> feature that is currently missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Bockelie <bockelie@mit.edu =20=

>>>>>> <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those of you who did have strong opinions...the idea bank =20=

>>>>>>> is open
>>>>>>> and I don't see many of your ideas.  Do what you want outside =20=

>>>>>>> HDAG,
>>>>>>> but it doesn't make sense to not use an official input to the
>>>>>>> committee as well....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [http://ideabank-housedining.mit.edu/ideas]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu =
<mailto:hwkns@mit.edu=20
>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I want to thank those of you who contributed to the =20
>>>>>>>> discussion on this
>>>>>>>> tonight.  I was surprised at how many senators just didn't =20
>>>>>>>> care.  You
>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>> were more vocal about the MIT EMS money last week than you =20
>>>>>>>> were about
>>>>>>>> student engagement.  Maybe you should consider joining =20
>>>>>>>> Finboard instead
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> Senate next time around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu =20=

>>>>>>>> <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attached is a bill, in case we want to pass it tonight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Hawkins =20
>>>>>>>>> <hwkns@mit.edu <mailto:hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Senate,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A lot of you have e-mailed me and said something to the =20
>>>>>>>>>> effect of, "I
>>>>>>>>>> agree, this is totally screwed up, but is there anything we =20=

>>>>>>>>>> can do at
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> point?"  Maybe there is.  While Colombo just wants this to =20=

>>>>>>>>>> be over, I
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> the higher level administration actually wants to get it =20
>>>>>>>>>> right.  If
>>>>>>>>>> we give
>>>>>>>>>> them a plan that's doable, they may hold DSL to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need to brainstorm to see if there is a solution that =20
>>>>>>>>>> can actually
>>>>>>>>>> incorporate student input AND reach a final decision by the =20=

>>>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>> week of
>>>>>>>>>> May.  I've outlined an idea below that might work, and I =20
>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>>>>> reply-all and tell me what you think about it, or come up =20
>>>>>>>>>> with your
>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Take minutes (not summaries, minutes) at HDAG meetings =20
>>>>>>>>>> and make
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> minutes public.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Involve ALL undergrads.  This change affects everyone, and
>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>> has ideas.  Make a public moira list for discussion, =20
>>>>>>>>>> monitor the list
>>>>>>>>>> frequently, and respond to questions and concerns raised by =20=

>>>>>>>>>> students.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Set up the Idea Bank NOW.  Not by the end of the week, =20
>>>>>>>>>> not as soon
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> you can make it look as pretty as you want it to.  Now.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. By April 16, publish a document that includes all =20
>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each idea
>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not.
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add the detailed comments from #4 to the ideas in the =20
>>>>>>>>>> Idea Bank to
>>>>>>>>>> which they apply, and let student input continue.
>>>>>>>>>> 6. By April 30, publish a document that includes all =20
>>>>>>>>>> positively-rated
>>>>>>>>>> ideas from the Idea Bank, with detailed comments on each =20
>>>>>>>>>> new idea
>>>>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>>>>> whether you plan to implement it and why or why not, and with
>>>>>>>>>> detailed
>>>>>>>>>> responses to any feedback on old ideas.
>>>>>>>>>> 7. By May 14, publish a document that outlines the new =20
>>>>>>>>>> dining plan
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of student input on each topic and the =20
>>>>>>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>> the choice that was ultimately made.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -hwkns
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>>>>> Class of 2011
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --=20
>>>> Adam Bockelie
>>>> 801.209.7233
>>>> <bockelie@mit.edu <mailto:bockelie@mit.edu>>
>>>>
>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>>> Class of 2011
>>>
>>
>> __________________________________
>> Alexandra Jordan
>>
>> MIT 2011
>> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
>> Political Science
>>
>> amjordan@mit.edu <mailto:amjordan@mit.edu>
>> 916.813.7740
>>
>>
>>
>>

__________________________________
Alexandra Jordan

MIT 2011
Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
Political Science

amjordan@mit.edu
916.813.7740





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