[531] in UA Senate
Re: Agenda
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cinjon Resnick)
Mon Apr 5 00:10:00 2010
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From: Cinjon Resnick <cinjon@MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:09:37 -0400
To: Tim Jenks <trjenks@gmail.com>
Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead?= <jontec@mit.edu>,
Andrew T Lukmann <lukymann@mit.edu>, UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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The plan was never to say that "you must approve these now." The idea is
that we are presenting the documents at this meeting with the intention of
having them sit for a week and open to discussion. Due process will of
course be followed, especially for something as serious as changing the
governing documents.
And a side note is that at least for the constitution, unfinished is mostly
a misnomer. It is still a bit more unclear than we would like it (even to
release to the Senate) in one section and we are currently adjusting that.
- Cinjon,
Judicial Board Chief
2010/4/5 Tim Jenks <trjenks@gmail.com>
> Words of Wisdom from Jonte. I think its kind of irresponsible to approve
> reports when we haven't had them in our hands for at least 24 hours. I
> mean, we should be reading these reports (like the dining report, hint hi=
nt)
> before we approve them, right?
>
> 2010/4/4 Jont=E9 Craighead <jontec@mit.edu>
>
> I expect we will hear from the interested parties why "we must approve th=
em
>> now" despite their unfinished state? Not shooting the messenger... I am =
just
>> stating that I anticipate a discussion on this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jont=E9 D. Craighead
>>
>> UA Senator from Next House
>> MIT Class of 2013
>> Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Tim Stumbaugh wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not sure they're ready. I think I've heard that the Executive
>> Committee Bylaws will probably not
>> > be ready by tomorrow, and I've seen indication that the Constitution i=
s
>> not quite finalized.
>> >
>> > On 4 Apr 2010 23.35, Andrew Lukmann wrote:
>> >> Can somebody forward the new Constitution and Executive Committee
>> Bylaws
>> >> to the list? I'm just curious what the changes are...
>> >>
>> >> -ATL
>> >>
>> >> Tim Stumbaugh wrote:
>> >>> Hey guys,
>> >>> I'm really sorry to do this so late, but I actually forgot (just due
>> >>> to general incompetence on my part) a couple of agenda items.
>> >>> We will be confirming Grant Robinson as UA representative to ASA at
>> >>> the beginning of the meeting and be presented with the new
>> >>> Constitution and Executive Committee Bylaws for us to approve (these
>> >>> are the reports of the Constitution Committee). I do not have the
>> >>> reports right now, unfortunately.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, I've updated my bylaws-maintenance bill. I am going to send ou=
t
>> >>> a bit of explanation about each clause.
>> >>>
>> >>> Again, I'm sorry for the delay in this. If you notice any other
>> >>> errors, please let me know.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4 Apr 2010 18.16, Tim Stumbaugh wrote:
>> >>>> Hey guys,
>> >>>> I have been working on a couple of bills, so I'm sorry this took so
>> >>>> long.
>> >>>> The agenda is at
>> >>>> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/agendas/2010-04-05.pdf.
>> >>>> The relevant legislation should be linked correctly. If I messed it
>> up,
>> >>>> please let me know.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My bills are sort of done. I'll continue to be updating them before
>> the
>> >>>> meeting tomorrow.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> See you tomorrow-
>> >>
>> > --
>> > -Tim
>> > "There is no ignorance, there is knowledge."
>>
>>
>
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The plan was never to say that "you must approve these now." The =
idea is that we are presenting the documents at this meeting with the inten=
tion of having them sit for a week and open to discussion. Due process will=
of course be followed, especially for something as serious as changing the=
governing documents. <br>
<br>And a side note is that at least for the constitution, unfinished is mo=
stly a misnomer. It is still a bit more unclear
than we would like it (even to release to the Senate) in one section and w=
e are=20
currently adjusting that. <br><br>- Cinjon,<br>Judicial Board Chief<br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/4/5 Tim Jenks <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:trjenks@gmail.com">trjenks@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1=
px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Words of Wisdom from Jonte.=A0 I think its kind of irresponsible to approve=
reports when we haven't had them in our hands for at least 24 hours.=
=A0 I mean, we should be reading these reports (like the dining report, hin=
t hint) before we approve them, right?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/4/4 Jont=E9 Craighead <span dir=3D"ltr"=
><<a href=3D"mailto:jontec@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">jontec@mit.edu</a>=
></span><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I expect we will hear from the interested parties why "we must approve=
them now" despite their unfinished state? Not shooting the messenger.=
.. I am just stating that I anticipate a discussion on this.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jont=E9 D. Craighead<br>
<br>
UA Senator from Next House<br>
MIT Class of 2013<br>
<div>Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div>On Apr 4, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Tim Stumbaugh wrote=
:<br>
<br>
> I'm not sure they're ready. I think I've heard that the Ex=
ecutive Committee Bylaws will probably not<br>
> be ready by tomorrow, and I've seen indication that the Constituti=
on is not quite finalized.<br>
><br>
> On 4 Apr 2010 23.35, Andrew Lukmann wrote:<br>
>> Can somebody forward the new Constitution and Executive Committee =
Bylaws<br>
>> to the list? I'm just curious what the changes are...<br>
>><br>
>> -ATL<br>
>><br>
>> Tim Stumbaugh wrote:<br>
>>> Hey guys,<br>
>>> I'm really sorry to do this so late, but I actually forgot=
(just due<br>
>>> to general incompetence on my part) a couple of agenda items.<=
br>
>>> We will be confirming Grant Robinson as UA representative to A=
SA at<br>
>>> the beginning of the meeting and be presented with the new<br>
>>> Constitution and Executive Committee Bylaws for us to approve =
(these<br>
>>> are the reports of the Constitution Committee). I do not have =
the<br>
>>> reports right now, unfortunately.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also, I've updated my bylaws-maintenance bill. I am going =
to send out<br>
>>> a bit of explanation about each clause.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Again, I'm sorry for the delay in this. If you notice any =
other<br>
>>> errors, please let me know.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 4 Apr 2010 18.16, Tim Stumbaugh wrote:<br>
>>>> Hey guys,<br>
>>>> I have been working on a couple of bills, so I'm sorry=
this took so<br>
>>>> long.<br>
>>>> The agenda is at<br>
>>>> <a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/agendas/2010=
-04-05.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/agendas/20=
10-04-05.pdf</a>.<br>
>>>> The relevant legislation should be linked correctly. If I =
messed it up,<br>
>>>> please let me know.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> My bills are sort of done. I'll continue to be updatin=
g them before the<br>
>>>> meeting tomorrow.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> See you tomorrow-<br>
>><br>
> --<br>
> -Tim<br>
> "There is no ignorance, there is knowledge."<br>
<br>
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