[486] in UA Senate
Re: Proposed New Business
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Liz A. Denys)
Mon Mar 29 11:30:30 2010
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:30:26 -0400
From: "Liz A. Denys" <lizdenys@MIT.EDU>
To: Sammi Wyman <swyman@mit.edu>
CC: Tim Jenks <tjenks@mit.edu>, Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu>,
UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <542355FF-075E-496B-8A2C-6125339FBE84@mit.edu>
Also, they are including the participation fee in their budget.
Shouldn't that be covered by the participants?
Is Senate really going to fund t-shirts?
Sammi Wyman wrote:
> Here is the funding request- Thanks for your patience everyone.
>
> If there are specific line items you disagree with or you think the
> request is for too much money, I encourage you to propose an amendment
> to eliminate certain line items, rather than just voting to give them no
> funding. I've presented the funding request exactly as it was submitted
> to me.
>
>
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>
>
> On Mar 29, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Tim Jenks wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the insight Alex.
>> Sammi, do you have a budget for this event, so we can see a breakdown
>> of what the money would be spent on?
>>
>> My initial impressions are that this is a *lot* of money, especially
>> to be recurring by precedent, when there are other channels through
>> which funding can or should be obtained.
>>
>> --Tim
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu
>> <mailto:adehnert@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> While considering this bill, I encourage the Senate to consider:
>>
>> == Discussion of a similar bill last year ==
>>
>> The discussion we had of a similar bill by the same group last
>> year (pages 7--8 of
>> http://web.mit.edu/ua/minutes/UAS40/2009-03-16.pdf). Some
>> particularly relevant comments, in my mind, include:
>>
>> * Keone Hon: Because you got it last year, it’s an indication you
>> likely won’t this year because coming to the UA for funding isn’t
>> supposed to be recurring.
>> * The discussion of alternate funding sources. I will note that
>> MIT-EMS applied to LEF and Finboard for this allocation cycle.
>> * The request from Senate is identical in amount to the request
>> from LEF (though I don't recall what we decided, and I can't seem
>> to find records anywhere).
>> * The Finboard application didn't really talk about MassCPR much,
>> though it was mentioned. All expected expenses should be included
>> in Finboard applications. The relevant line item in the Spring
>> allocations was "CPR classes $500".
>>
>> == FPRC report ==
>> The Financial Policy Review Committee's report, which Senate
>> approved just last meeting
>> (http://web.mit.edu/ua/committee/fprc/report/latest/report.pdf,
>> especially chapter 3, "Senate-managed funds" --- pages 17--19)
>>
>> * "As a result, Senate’s discussions of discretionary usage are
>> often undirected. Over the past few semesters, many discussions
>> rehashed the same sort of philosophical points. Further, the lack
>> of clarity in what Senate Discretionary aimed to fund prompted
>> concerns that those coming to and receiving money from Senate
>> Discretionary were those who knew Senators, rather than those with
>> the best ideas. Clarifying the purpose and intended uses should
>> both allow discussions to be shorter
>> and less repetitive, and give those uninvolved in the UA greater
>> confidence as to when the Senate Discretionary Fund is a good
>> source of funding."
>> * "In light of the above, the FPRC recommends that Senate
>> Discretionary Fund focus on funding the following:
>> * Unique requests from students or student groups that do not
>> meet Finboard regulations but either:
>> 1. Benefit a large portion of the entire undergraduate student body
>> [...]
>> * Unforeseeable events or initiatives run by student groups
>> (Note: This does not include any events which the group could have
>> handled during a regular Finboard cycle, if the group had been
>> better prepared.)"
>>
>> == Budget for the event ==
>>
>> Unfortunately, this seems to be missing from your email. Do you
>> have one that you could forward.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd encourage you to discuss the bill via email.
>>
>> I'll be at Senate for any in-person discussion of this proposed
>> bill. Should you choose to consider it (which I believe requires
>> 2/3 vote due to the late notice), I'd be happy to provide any
>> historical or financial perspective I can, especially if you
>> provide an indication of what you'd like in advance so I can do
>> any relevant research.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex Dehnert
>> UA Treasurer
>> Interim Chair, UA History Committee
>>
>>
>> On 03/29/2010 01:18 AM, Sammi Wyman wrote:
>>
>> Sorry this is late, guys, but I just got the funding request
>> and the event is on April 4th, so I plan to bring up this bill
>> as new business tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Liz A. Denys
lizdenys@mit.edu
