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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:51:54 -0400 From: Alex Dehnert <adehnert@MIT.EDU> To: Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU> CC: UA Senate <ua-senate@MIT.EDU> In-Reply-To: <6ed15f040910191848x3210103cq9ec946f2525bf4c7@mail.gmail.com> Ted Hilk wrote: >> That the Treasurer may reallocate funds from one part of the UA budget to >> the pool of funds that >> the Finance Board helps allocate to student groups for the next funding >> period; >> > > Regarding this pool: if the applicable committee chair later decides that > this decision was made in error, is there any way for it to be reversed? > Given that the money is allocated to a "pool of funds" rather than directly > to the groups (hence implying some time delay before the money is actually > out of UA's control), shouldn't such reversal be an option? If not, why > not? Paul Youchak wrote: > Having the reallocation of money be reversible makes no sense. The > committee leader should not release the money unless they are 100% > sure they wont need it. Secondly, if they find they have changed > their mind it is always possible to ask for more money from > discretionary. I don't think this will ever happen, so its not a > very strong objection to the bill. I mostly agree with Paul. I also don't think it is fair to Finboard to be changing their budget frequently in both directions. I'd be open to a provision allowing the treasurer to reverse a reallocation (possibly assuming Finboard chair approval) --- let me know if people think that would be a good idea. > > That such reallocations must be approved by the committee chair or other >> officer in charge of the >> budget area losing said funds; >> > > Would it be possible to clarify, in the text of the bill, which specific > positions are allowed to do this for which specific budget areas? I feel > that the existing wording is a bit vague, given the powers involved. Yup. I've added such text in an appendix of sorts. The ordering is ~random. > > That the Senate, Finance Board, and [a]affected Chair must be informed of >> each such reallocation; >> *sigh* In my first version, that was affected... And then one of the people who looked it over before the meeting had me change it. *sigh* I did a bit of cleanup here, changing "chair" to "officer", since, say, Paul should be told if I take him up on an offer to... move unused retreat money or something. I think "officer" can reasonably include "chair", especially given the new appendix. > > Is there a reason why this line does not say "by the next meeting of the > Senate"? While understanding the importance of delegation, I believe that > timely information is necessary to allow for review of the decisions. I'm not sure that "by the next meeting" is the right thing... It's a bit annoying if the next meeting is like 20 minutes after the move or something. On the other hand it is somewhat unclear when a reallocation happens if not when the Finboard and the chair (and presumably Senate) get told about it. Possibly when the transfer actually goes through? Except I don't know that Finboard actually allocates from some actual account... *sigh* Um... For the time being, I'll stick in one week, which seems generally reasonable. If anybody has a better understanding of the actual mechanism that money gets transfered, let me know; I'll probably try to ask Kerri in the next couple days. ~~Alex > > Finally, I would like to note that I'm not by any means opposed to the > principle of this bill. I agree that leftover money from our operations > should go to student groups. I just want to make sure that Senate exercises > caution in doing so, and more time for discussion was necessary to meet this > aim. > > Thank you, > Ted Hilk > EC Senator > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu> wrote: > >> Since we postponed this a week... >> >> If you have questions: Please ask them explicitly. Otherwise, no guarantee >> that you'll get an answer... I'm not psychic. >> >> I'll probably put together some more information shortly, but I encourage >> some discussion to happen here besides that. >> >> ~~Alex >> >> >> Alex Dehnert wrote: >> >>> I wrote a bill which is available at >>> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/2/moving-money/moving-money.pdf. >>> >>> The bill authorizes the treasurer to: >>> * reallocate funds from a committee to the pool of funds that the Finance >>> Board helps allocate to student groups for the next funding period; and >>> * Requires that such reallocations be approved by the committee chair >>> losing said funds; and >>> * That the Senate, Finance Board, and affected Chair must be informed of >>> each such reallocation; and >>> * That such authorization shall expire at the end of the 2009–2010 fiscal >>> year unless renewed by Senate. >>> >>> I'm happy to answer any questions that you have. It would be awesome if we >>> can get most questions out *before* Senate, so that Senate can be short >>> without being much less effective. >>> >>> ~~Alex >>> >> >
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