[159] in UA Senate
Re: 41UAS2.3: Bill to Authorize the Treasurer to Reallocate Money to Student Groups
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexandra Jordan)
Mon Oct 19 21:56:19 2009
Cc: Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu>, UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
From: Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@MIT.EDU>
To: Ted Hilk <thilk@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <6ed15f040910191848x3210103cq9ec946f2525bf4c7@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:56:12 -0400
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Ted's second comment was addressed with an amendment to the bill to =20
clarify that only committee chairs or officers of the relevant offices =20=
can make such decisions.
Alex
Sorority Senator
On Oct 19, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Ted Hilk wrote:
> That the Treasurer may reallocate funds from one part of the UA =20
> budget to the pool of funds that
> the Finance Board helps allocate to student groups for the next =20
> funding period;
>
> Regarding this pool: if the applicable committee chair later decides =20=
> that this decision was made in error, is there any way for it to be =20=
> reversed? Given that the money is allocated to a "pool of funds" =20
> rather than directly to the groups (hence implying some time delay =20
> before the money is actually out of UA's control), shouldn't such =20
> reversal be an option? If not, why not?
>
> That such reallocations must be approved by the committee chair or =20
> other officer in charge of the
> budget area losing said funds;
>
> Would it be possible to clarify, in the text of the bill, which =20
> specific positions are allowed to do this for which specific budget =20=
> areas? I feel that the existing wording is a bit vague, given the =20
> powers involved.
>
> That the Senate, Finance Board, and [a]affected Chair must be =20
> informed of each such reallocation;
>
> Is there a reason why this line does not say "by the next meeting of =20=
> the Senate"? While understanding the importance of delegation, I =20
> believe that timely information is necessary to allow for review of =20=
> the decisions.
>
> Finally, I would like to note that I'm not by any means opposed to =20
> the principle of this bill. I agree that leftover money from our =20
> operations should go to student groups. I just want to make sure =20
> that Senate exercises caution in doing so, and more time for =20
> discussion was necessary to meet this aim.
>
> Thank you,
> Ted Hilk
> EC Senator
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu> =20
> wrote:
> Since we postponed this a week...
>
> If you have questions: Please ask them explicitly. Otherwise, no =20
> guarantee that you'll get an answer... I'm not psychic.
>
> I'll probably put together some more information shortly, but I =20
> encourage some discussion to happen here besides that.
>
> ~~Alex
>
>
> Alex Dehnert wrote:
> I wrote a bill which is available at =
http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/2/moving-money/moving-money.pdf=20
> .
>
> The bill authorizes the treasurer to:
> * reallocate funds from a committee to the pool of funds that the =20
> Finance Board helps allocate to student groups for the next funding =20=
> period; and
> * Requires that such reallocations be approved by the committee =20
> chair losing said funds; and
> * That the Senate, Finance Board, and affected Chair must be =20
> informed of each such reallocation; and
> * That such authorization shall expire at the end of the 2009=962010 =20=
> fiscal year unless renewed by Senate.
>
> I'm happy to answer any questions that you have. It would be awesome =20=
> if we can get most questions out *before* Senate, so that Senate can =20=
> be short without being much less effective.
>
> ~~Alex
>
>
__________________________________
Alexandra Jordan
MIT 2011
Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
Political Science
amjordan@mit.edu
916.813.7740
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ted's second comment was =
addressed with an amendment to the bill to clarify that only committee =
chairs or officers of the relevant offices can make such =
decisions.<div><br></div><div>Alex</div><div>Sorority =
Senator</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 19, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Ted Hilk =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, =
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" =
class=3D"gmail_quote">That the Treasurer may reallocate funds from one =
part of the UA budget to the pool of funds that<br> the Finance Board =
helps allocate to student groups for the next funding =
period;<br></blockquote><br>Regarding this pool: if the applicable =
committee chair later decides that this decision was made in error, is =
there any way for it to be reversed? Given that the money is =
allocated to a "pool of funds" rather than directly to the groups (hence =
implying some time delay before the money is actually out of UA's =
control), shouldn't such reversal be an option? If not, why =
not?<br> <br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, =
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div style=3D"text-align: left;">That such =
reallocations must be approved by the committee chair or other officer =
in charge of the<br> budget area losing said =
funds;<br></div></blockquote><br>Would it be possible to clarify, in the =
text of the bill, which specific positions are allowed to do this for =
which specific budget areas? I feel that the existing wording is a =
bit vague, given the powers involved.<br> <br><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">That the Senate, =
Finance Board, and [a]affected Chair must be informed of each such =
reallocation;<br> </blockquote><br>Is there a reason why this line does =
not say "by the next meeting of the Senate"? While understanding =
the importance of delegation, I believe that timely information is =
necessary to allow for review of the decisions.<br> <br>Finally, I would =
like to note that I'm not by any means opposed to the principle of this =
bill. I agree that leftover money from our operations should go to =
student groups. I just want to make sure that Senate exercises =
caution in doing so, and more time for discussion was necessary to meet =
this aim.<br> <br>Thank you,<br>Ted Hilk<br>EC =
Senator<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 =
at 9:18 PM, Alex Dehnert <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a =
href=3D"mailto:adehnert@mit.edu">adehnert@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> =
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Since =
we postponed this a week...<br> <br> If you have questions: Please ask =
them explicitly. Otherwise, no guarantee that you'll get an answer... =
I'm not psychic.<br> <br> I'll probably put together some more =
information shortly, but I encourage some discussion to happen here =
besides that.<br><font color=3D"#888888"> <br> =
~~Alex</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> <br> Alex Dehnert =
wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;"> I wrote a bill which is available at <a =
href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/2/moving-money/moving-money.pdf=
" =
target=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/2/moving-money/moving=
-money.pdf</a>.<br> <br> The bill authorizes the treasurer to:<br> * =
reallocate funds from a committee to the pool of funds that the Finance =
Board helps allocate to student groups for the next funding period; =
and<br> * Requires that such reallocations be approved by the committee =
chair losing said funds; and<br> * That the Senate, Finance Board, and =
affected Chair must be informed of each such reallocation; and<br> * =
That such authorization shall expire at the end of the 2009=962010 =
fiscal year unless renewed by Senate.<br> <br> I'm happy to answer any =
questions that you have. It would be awesome if we can get most =
questions out *before* Senate, so that Senate can be short without being =
much less effective.<br> <br> ~~Alex<br> </blockquote> <br> =
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"><div>__________________________________</div><div>Alexandra =
Jordan</div><div><br></div><div>MIT 2011</div><div>Earth, Atmospheric, =
and Planetary Science</div><div>Political =
Science</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:amjordan@mit.edu">amjordan@mit.edu</a></div><div>916.813.77=
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