[158] in UA Senate
Re: 41UAS2.3: Bill to Authorize the Treasurer to Reallocate Money to
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ted Hilk)
Mon Oct 19 21:48:33 2009
In-Reply-To: <4ADD0FD6.5000600@mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:48:23 -0400
From: Ted Hilk <thilk@MIT.EDU>
To: Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu>
Cc: UA Senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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> That the Treasurer may reallocate funds from one part of the UA budget to
> the pool of funds that
> the Finance Board helps allocate to student groups for the next funding
> period;
>
Regarding this pool: if the applicable committee chair later decides that
this decision was made in error, is there any way for it to be reversed?
Given that the money is allocated to a "pool of funds" rather than directly
to the groups (hence implying some time delay before the money is actually
out of UA's control), shouldn't such reversal be an option? If not, why
not?
That such reallocations must be approved by the committee chair or other
> officer in charge of the
> budget area losing said funds;
>
Would it be possible to clarify, in the text of the bill, which specific
positions are allowed to do this for which specific budget areas? I feel
that the existing wording is a bit vague, given the powers involved.
That the Senate, Finance Board, and [a]affected Chair must be informed of
> each such reallocation;
>
Is there a reason why this line does not say "by the next meeting of the
Senate"? While understanding the importance of delegation, I believe that
timely information is necessary to allow for review of the decisions.
Finally, I would like to note that I'm not by any means opposed to the
principle of this bill. I agree that leftover money from our operations
should go to student groups. I just want to make sure that Senate exercise=
s
caution in doing so, and more time for discussion was necessary to meet thi=
s
aim.
Thank you,
Ted Hilk
EC Senator
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Alex Dehnert <adehnert@mit.edu> wrote:
> Since we postponed this a week...
>
> If you have questions: Please ask them explicitly. Otherwise, no guarante=
e
> that you'll get an answer... I'm not psychic.
>
> I'll probably put together some more information shortly, but I encourage
> some discussion to happen here besides that.
>
> ~~Alex
>
>
> Alex Dehnert wrote:
>
>> I wrote a bill which is available at
>> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS41/2/moving-money/moving-money.pdf.
>>
>> The bill authorizes the treasurer to:
>> * reallocate funds from a committee to the pool of funds that the Financ=
e
>> Board helps allocate to student groups for the next funding period; and
>> * Requires that such reallocations be approved by the committee chair
>> losing said funds; and
>> * That the Senate, Finance Board, and affected Chair must be informed of
>> each such reallocation; and
>> * That such authorization shall expire at the end of the 2009=962010 fis=
cal
>> year unless renewed by Senate.
>>
>> I'm happy to answer any questions that you have. It would be awesome if =
we
>> can get most questions out *before* Senate, so that Senate can be short
>> without being much less effective.
>>
>> ~~Alex
>>
>
>
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<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt=
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">That the Treasure=
r may reallocate funds from one part of the UA budget to the pool of funds =
that<br>
the Finance Board helps allocate to student groups for the next funding per=
iod;<br></blockquote><br>Regarding this pool: if the applicable committee c=
hair later decides that this decision was made in error, is there any way f=
or it to be reversed?=A0 Given that the money is allocated to a "pool =
of funds" rather than directly to the groups (hence implying some time=
delay before the money is actually out of UA's control), shouldn't=
such reversal be an option?=A0 If not, why not?<br>
<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote"><div style=3D=
"text-align: left;">That such reallocations must be approved by the committ=
ee chair or other officer in charge of the<br>
budget area losing said funds;<br></div></blockquote><br>Would it be possib=
le to clarify, in the text of the bill, which specific positions are allowe=
d to do this for which specific budget areas?=A0 I feel that the existing w=
ording is a bit vague, given the powers involved.<br>
<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">That the Sena=
te, Finance Board, and [a]affected Chair must be informed of each such real=
location;<br>
</blockquote><br>Is there a reason why this line does not say "by the =
next meeting of the Senate"?=A0 While understanding the importance of =
delegation, I believe that timely information is necessary to allow for rev=
iew of the decisions.<br>
<br>Finally, I would like to note that I'm not by any means opposed to =
the principle of this bill.=A0 I agree that leftover money from our operati=
ons should go to student groups.=A0 I just want to make sure that Senate ex=
ercises caution in doing so, and more time for discussion was necessary to =
meet this aim.<br>
<br>Thank you,<br>Ted Hilk<br>EC Senator<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Alex Dehnert <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
;<a href=3D"mailto:adehnert@mit.edu">adehnert@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:=
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Since we postpone=
d this a week...<br>
<br>
If you have questions: Please ask them explicitly. Otherwise, no guarantee =
that you'll get an answer... I'm not psychic.<br>
<br>
I'll probably put together some more information shortly, but I encoura=
ge some discussion to happen here besides that.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
~~Alex</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
Alex Dehnert wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I wrote a bill which is available at <a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/senat=
e/UAS41/2/moving-money/moving-money.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.e=
du/ua/senate/UAS41/2/moving-money/moving-money.pdf</a>.<br>
<br>
The bill authorizes the treasurer to:<br>
* reallocate funds from a committee to the pool of funds that the Finance B=
oard helps allocate to student groups for the next funding period; and<br>
* Requires that such reallocations be approved by the committee chair losin=
g said funds; and<br>
* That the Senate, Finance Board, and affected Chair must be informed of ea=
ch such reallocation; and<br>
* That such authorization shall expire at the end of the 2009=962010 fiscal=
year unless renewed by Senate.<br>
<br>
I'm happy to answer any questions that you have. It would be awesome if=
we can get most questions out *before* Senate, so that Senate can be short=
without being much less effective.<br>
<br>
~~Alex<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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