[1131] in UA Senate
Re: Dining Referendum Bill
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Allan Miramonti)
Sun Feb 27 21:13:33 2011
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:13:30 -0500
From: Allan Miramonti <allanm@MIT.EDU>
To: Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Shuang Chen <shuang61@MIT.EDU>, "ua-senate@mit.edu" <ua-senate@MIT.EDU>
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Thats partially my point. We haven't defined what the referendum asks. I
suggested kicking it to subcommittee given that its likely too big a problem
to solve on the floor of Senate.
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@mit.edu>wrote:
> What questions are we planning on asking in the referendum?
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>
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> I think that the questions themselves are far more critical than the
> introduction.
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> -Plaz
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> *From:* thebigal1@gmail.com [mailto:thebigal1@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Allan
> Miramonti
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:09 PM
> *To:* Shuang Chen
> *Cc:* ua-senate@mit.edu
> *Subject:* Re: Dining Referendum Bill
>
>
>
> Foremost, thank you for writing this. I really like the idea of adding a
> referendum to this year's election. I would make a few strategical changes
> to the way this bill is set up however. The referendum should be posed
> neutrally, or at least factually, and in such a manner that addresses the
> issue of dining rather than pointing fingers.
>
>
>
> While everything outlined in the bill is true, the administration will
> probably be ticked if we present it to them in this fashion. Note that this
> bill calls out "the Chancellor", but the Chancellor who will see the results
> of the referendum is different that the person implied in the bill.
>
>
>
> I would re-frame the whereas section of this bill to say things to the
> effect of:
>
> -Dining is an issue important to undergraduates
>
> -There is a need for hard, unbiased data on student opinion with regard to
> dining
>
> -It is the duty of the UA to reflect student opinion
>
>
>
> I also feel it is important that Senate approve specifically what the
> referendum says. Given that a binding referendum requires a 3/5 vote, it
> is important enough to where we shouldn't pass something ambiguous.
>
>
>
> Unless someone can generate the proper wording for the referendum, I
> recommend that the "that" section be re-framed:
>
> -a subcommittee be created to draft a referendum about dining that presents
> a factual depiction of the proposed plan
>
> -that this referendum be submitted for approval at the next
> regularly scheduled meeting.
>
> Again, I fully wish to see a referendum occur. Given that we only have one
> shot, I would like to see it done as effectively as possible.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Al
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Shuang Chen <shuang61@mit.edu> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Based on Saturday's Caucus, it seems like everyone there likes the idea of
> a referendum ( a direct vote asking all constituent to vote on a particular
> issue). I'm not sure what the exact steps are in initiating a referendum,
> but writing a bill is definitely the first step. Attached is a link
> to Google doc with the rough draft of the bill, if you like editing
> rights please email me with your gmail. I don't want to make it
> so everyone with the link can edit for obvious reasons. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MG9wbTLK1utPOYCjmzX0_wsYgrI8NwX5qIletjCyWB8/edit?hl=en&authkey=CIfZjYMI
>
> --
> Shuang Chen
>
> Class of 2013
>
> Sloan School of Management
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Thats partially my point. =A0We haven't defined what the=A0referendum=
=A0asks. =A0I suggested kicking it to subcommittee given that its likely to=
o big a problem to solve on the floor of Senate.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Michael E Plasmeier <span dir=3D"l=
tr"><<a href=3D"mailto:theplaz@mit.edu">theplaz@mit.edu</a>></span> w=
rote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"=
purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#=
1F497D">What questions are we planning on asking in the referendum?</span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F49=
7D">I think that the questions themselves are far more critical than the in=
troduction.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F49=
7D">-Plaz</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"> <a href=3D"mailto:thebigal1@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">thebigal1@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:thebigal1=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">thebigal1@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>=
Allan Miramonti<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Shuang Chen<br=
><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">ua-senat=
e@mit.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Dining Referendum Bill</span></p><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Foremost, thank you for writing this. =A0I really like the idea of a=
dding a referendum to this year's election. =A0I would make a few strat=
egical changes to the way this bill is set up however. =A0The referendum sh=
ould be posed neutrally, or at least factually, and in such a manner that a=
ddresses the issue of dining rather than pointing fingers. =A0</p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">While =
everything outlined in the bill is true, the administration will probably b=
e ticked if we present it to them in this fashion. =A0Note that this bill c=
alls out "the Chancellor", but the Chancellor who will see the re=
sults of the referendum is different that the person implied in the bill.</=
p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
I would=A0re-frame=A0the whereas section of this bill to say things to the =
effect of:</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-Dining is an issue importa=
nt to undergraduates</p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-There is a need for hard, unbiased data =
on student=A0opinion=A0with regard to dining</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">-It is the duty of the UA to reflect student opinion</p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">
=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also feel it is important that S=
enate approve specifically what the referendum says. =A0Given that a bindin=
g referendum requires a 3/5 vote, it is=A0important=A0enough to where we sh=
ouldn't pass something ambiguous.=A0</p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Unless someone can generate the proper wording for the referendum, I recomm=
end that the "that" section be re-framed:</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">
-a subcommittee be created to draft a referendum about dining that presents=
a factual depiction of the proposed plan</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">-that this referendum be submitted for a=
pproval at the next regularly=A0scheduled=A0meeting.</p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Again, I fully wish to see a referendum o=
ccur. =A0Given that we only have one shot, I would like to see it done as=
=A0effectively=A0as possible.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><=
/div><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al</p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon,=
Feb 21, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Shuang Chen <<a href=3D"mailto:shuang61@mit.ed=
u" target=3D"_blank">shuang61@mit.edu</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi all,</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Based on Saturday's Caucus, it seems like everyon=
e there=A0likes=A0the idea of a referendum ( a direct vote asking all=A0con=
stituent=A0to vote on a particular issue). I'm not sure what the exact =
steps are in initiating a referendum, but writing a bill is definitely the =
first step. Attached is a link to=A0Google=A0doc with the rough draft of th=
e bill, if you like editing rights=A0please=A0email me with your gmail. I d=
on't want to make it so=A0everyone=A0with the link can edit for obvious=
reasons. Thanks.</p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MG9wbTLK1utPOYCjmzX0_wsYgrI8=
NwX5qIletjCyWB8/edit?hl=3Den&authkey=3DCIfZjYMI" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://docs.google.com/document/d/1MG9wbTLK1utPOYCjmzX0_wsYgrI8NwX5qIletjCyWB8=
/edit?hl=3Den&authkey=3DCIfZjYMI</a><br clear=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>Shuang Chen</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Class of 2013</p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sloan School of Management</p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div></div><=
/div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">
=A0</p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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