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RE: Reminder: Senate Caucus at 12:00pm Tomorrow

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael E Plasmeier)
Sat Feb 19 18:49:04 2011

From: Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@MIT.EDU>
To: Daniel D Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu>, Benjamin I Shaibu <bshaibu@mit.edu>
CC: "ua-senate-officers@mit.edu" <ua-senate-officers@mit.edu>,
        =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jont=E9_Craighead_=28UA_Speaker=29?= <ua-speaker@mit.edu>,
        "ua-senate@mit.edu" <ua-senate@mit.edu>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:49:15 -0500

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I think that this is exactly where we can add value to the report.

The UA has this tendency to only come forth with the lowest common denomina=
tor views.  From the meeting today about the only thing we could agree on i=
s that any plan should not be mandatory.  And of course, all things being e=
qual, we don't want it to be mandatory.

I think we, as the UA, could provide more value if we took stronger positio=
ns.  If only 7% want sustainability, we should say that and advocate for a =
lower-cost, less-sustainable plan.  If we say how we think things should be=
 funded (centrally, by users, etc) that provides input.

Saying no is easy.  The administration knows we don't want a mandatory plan=
 if we can help it.  But where do the students stand on the more complex is=
sues?????  This is where we can provide valuable input.

-Michael

From: danieldhawkins@gmail.com [mailto:danieldhawkins@gmail.com] On Behalf =
Of Daniel Hawkins
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:54 PM
To: Benjamin I Shaibu
Cc: ua-senate-officers@mit.edu; Jont=E9 Craighead (UA Speaker); ua-senate@m=
it.edu
Subject: Re: Reminder: Senate Caucus at 12:00pm Tomorrow

There is a vocal minority of students who really think sustainable food sho=
uld be a big part of the planning and creation of a new dining system.  We =
gave one of them a chance to write up something that we might include in th=
e report, and he did.  We thought it was a nice idea, but probably a little=
 unrealistic and possibly financially infeasible.  So we cut it up, added i=
n the phrase "equal or lesser costs", and kept it there as a way of saying,=
 "here's another preference, if it doesn't interfere with your main priorit=
ies."

So yes, there was some strong student backing for the idea, but on the orde=
r of ~7% of surveyed students.  Most of the rest seemed to think that sort =
of thing was not nearly as important as keeping costs down.

-hwkns



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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think t=
hat this is exactly where we can add value to the report.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
ri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";co=
lor:#1F497D'>The UA has this tendency to only come forth with the lowest co=
mmon denominator views.=A0 From the meeting today about the only thing we c=
ould agree on is that any plan should not be mandatory.=A0 And of course, a=
ll things being equal, we don&#8217;t want it to be mandatory.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'>I think we, as the UA, could provide more value if we t=
ook stronger positions.=A0 If only 7% want sustainability, we should say th=
at and advocate for a lower-cost, less-sustainable plan.=A0 If we say how w=
e think things should be funded (centrally, by users, etc) that provides in=
put.=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saying no is easy.=A0 The administra=
tion knows we don&#8217;t want a mandatory plan if we can help it.=A0 But w=
here do the students stand on the more complex issues?????=A0 This is where=
 we can provide valuable input.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F=
497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Michael<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",=
"sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Tahoma","sans-serif"'> danieldhawkins@gmail.com [mailto:danieldhawkins@gmai=
l.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Hawkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, Februar=
y 19, 2011 5:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Benjamin I Shaibu<br><b>Cc:</b> ua-senate-=
officers@mit.edu; Jont=E9 Craighead (UA Speaker); ua-senate@mit.edu<br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: Reminder: Senate Caucus at 12:00pm Tomorrow<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>There is a vocal minority of students who really =
think sustainable food should be a big part of the planning and creation of=
 a new dining system.&nbsp; We gave one of them a chance to write up someth=
ing that we might include in the report, and he did.&nbsp; We thought it wa=
s a nice idea, but probably a little unrealistic and possibly financially i=
nfeasible.&nbsp; So we cut it up, added in the phrase &quot;equal or lesser=
 costs&quot;, and kept it there as a way of saying, &quot;here's another pr=
eference, if it doesn't interfere with your main priorities.&quot;<br><br>S=
o yes, there was some strong student backing for the idea, but on the order=
 of ~7% of surveyed students.&nbsp; Most of the rest seemed to think that s=
ort of thing was not nearly as important as keeping costs down.<br><br>-hwk=
ns<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></=
body></html>=

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