[1084] in UA Senate
Re: orientation report response
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Lukmann)
Mon Feb 14 17:44:46 2011
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:44:22 -0500
From: Andrew Lukmann <lukymann@MIT.EDU>
To: "Alec Lai (UA Secretary-General)" <ua-secretary@mit.edu>
CC: Betsy Riley <rileyb@mit.edu>, ua-senate@mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=EheP==86=95adNoZtVq=_OV3TsG4yu7=+t1_S@mail.gmail.com>
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I think that it's pretty funny that you guys picked up our orientation
report from '06 and still found some of the material relevant. Please
let me know if I can help provide any context/perspective from that
period or if I can help with any other questions.
Yours in the UA,
Andrew Lukmann
UA President 2006-2007
On 2/12/2011 2:13 PM, Alec Lai (UA Secretary-General) wrote:
> I think these are great recommendations, but I would caution that I
> believe we should talk more than just about REX (and things
> overlapping with REX and stuff). The UA should encompass and
> evaluate/discuss the entirety of Orientation. Just a recommendation
> that came to mind as something to think about during the caucus
> discussions. Otherwise, thanks for these great comments from EC!
>
> Best,
> Alec
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Betsy Riley <rileyb@mit.edu
> <mailto:rileyb@mit.edu>> wrote:
>
> I talked to members of EC about the 2006 Orientation report (Tim
> and I split the halls, so this is just ~half the dorm). For the
> most part, people agreed with the report as it stands. The T Party
> specifics are obviously out of date, but the ~equivalent Tuesday
> night event that currently exists was met mostly with neutral
> opinions. Most people hadn't heard of it, and those who had felt
> it was unhelpful but not a terrible use of time or marginally
> helpful.
>
> Regarding the math diagnostic exam for physics placement, everyone
> thought that it shouldn't be required for students who place out
> of 8.01 or take the 8.01 ASE, two suggestions the report presents.
>
> Everyone I talked to had not problem with freshmen getting info
> about FSILGs earlier, and some definitely supported it. There was
> little concern that it would increase Rush-like activities during
> REX, since people felt that some FSILGs already recruit freshmen a
> lot during REX.
>
> Another unanimous agreement was that whether or not a dorm's RBA
> program is binding should be decided by that dorm.
>
> Regarding some of the solutions presented in the report for
> solving the "decision compression problem," most people were happy
> with them. Some were concerned that separating REX and Orientation
> events would be bad for freshmen who like the structured nature of
> Orientation and are a little overwhelmed by the REX craziness.
> Everyone who commented on it said that moving freshman reg day
> later, like to normal reg day, would make sense.
>
> Someone was concerned with the overlap between ASEs and REX since
> full participation in REX events might make it difficult for some
> students to find time to study or wake up for an early exam.
>
> The general sentiment was that REX should not be shortened, CPW
> should not be a replacement for REX, and Orientation events aren't
> super important and could be moved.
>
> Betsy
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
> Alec C. Lai
> Secretary General
> MIT Undergraduate Association
>
> ua-secretary@mit.edu <mailto:ua-secretary@mit.edu> | (440)454-2942
>
>
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I think that it's pretty funny that you guys picked up our
orientation report from '06 and still found some of the material
relevant. Please let me know if I can help provide any
context/perspective from that period or if I can help with any other
questions.<br>
<br>
Yours in the UA,<br>
Andrew Lukmann<br>
UA President 2006-2007<br>
<br>
On 2/12/2011 2:13 PM, Alec Lai (UA Secretary-General) wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTi=EheP==86=95adNoZtVq=_OV3TsG4yu7=+t1_S@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I think these are great recommendations, but I would
caution that I believe we should talk more than just about REX
(and things overlapping with REX and stuff). The UA should
encompass and evaluate/discuss the entirety of Orientation. Just
a recommendation that came to mind as something to think about
during the caucus discussions. Otherwise, thanks for these great
comments from EC!
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div>Alec<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Betsy
Riley <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rileyb@mit.edu">rileyb@mit.edu</a>></span>
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I talked to members of EC about the 2006 Orientation report
(Tim and I split the halls, so this is just ~half the dorm).
For the most part, people agreed with the report as it
stands. The T Party specifics are obviously out of date, but
the ~equivalent Tuesday night event that currently exists
was met mostly with neutral opinions. Most people hadn't
heard of it, and those who had felt it was unhelpful but not
a terrible use of time or marginally helpful.
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>Regarding the math diagnostic exam for physics
placement, everyone thought that it shouldn't be required
for students who place out of 8.01 or take the 8.01 ASE,
two suggestions the report presents.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Everyone I talked to had not problem with freshmen
getting info about FSILGs earlier, and some definitely
supported it. There was little concern that it would
increase Rush-like activities during REX, since people
felt that some FSILGs already recruit freshmen a lot
during REX.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Another unanimous agreement was that whether or not a
dorm's RBA program is binding should be decided by that
dorm. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regarding some of the solutions presented in the report
for solving the "decision compression problem," most
people were happy with them. Some were concerned that
separating REX and Orientation events would be bad for
freshmen who like the structured nature of Orientation and
are a little overwhelmed by the REX craziness. Everyone
who commented on it said that moving freshman reg day
later, like to normal reg day, would make sense.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Someone was concerned with the overlap between ASEs and
REX since full participation in REX events might make it
difficult for some students to find time to study or wake
up for an early exam. </div>
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>The general sentiment was that REX should not be
shortened, CPW should not be a replacement for REX, and
Orientation events aren't super important and could be
moved. </div>
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Betsy<br>
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Best,
<div>Alec C. Lai
<div>Secretary General</div>
<div>MIT Undergraduate Association</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ua-secretary@mit.edu" target="_blank">ua-secretary@mit.edu</a>
| (440)454-2942</div>
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