[1055] in UA Senate
Re: Agenda for 42 UAS 9
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Hawkins)
Mon Feb 7 15:56:58 2011
Reply-To: hwkns@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <4574BA5F915E33499B1EE3597608640008A719A0E9@EXPO18.exchange.mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:56:53 -0500
From: Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@MIT.EDU>
To: Almas Abdulla <almas_a@mit.edu>
Cc: Tim Jenks <tjenks@mit.edu>,
ua-senate-officers <ua-senate-officers@mit.edu>,
ua-senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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All undergrads have a voice at Senate meetings (although a time limit may b=
e
imposed), so you should tell your people they're welcome to come and speak.
I would encourage them to speak up if they have something productive to say
(i.e., a solution to the problem, or a part of the problem that has not yet
been thought of or articulated). Unlike the last meeting, everyone in
attendance at this meeting will be on the same page about why REX is
important and how the proposed schedule doesn't leave enough time for all
freshmen to make an informed decision about where to live. So talking abou=
t
those ideas would be essentially a waste of time.
-hwkns
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Almas Abdulla <almas_a@mit.edu> wrote:
> Can non-senate members raise concerns regarding REX in today's meeting?
> Some of my constituents are interested in attending.
>
> Almas
> ________________________________________
> From: trjenks@gmail.com [trjenks@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tim Jenks [
> tjenks@MIT.EDU]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:26 AM
> To: Daniel D Hawkins
> Cc: ua-senate-officers; ua-senate
> Subject: Re: Agenda for 42 UAS 9
>
> That depends on how busy their FPOP and the math diagnostic keeps them
> during these days. They'd have at least Sunday and Monday, and parts
> (possibly only the night) or all of Saturday.
>
> --Tim
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu<mailto:
> hwkns@mit.edu>> wrote:
> What about FPOP kids? How much REX time do they get in this scenario?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tim Jenks <tjenks@mit.edu<mailto:
> tjenks@mit.edu>> wrote:
> Hi guys, has any progress been made on discussion for orientation? After
> mulling it over for a while, it seems to me that the big issue is the
> squeeze in time between the earliest point that students are allowed to
> arrive on campus if they're not participating in an FPOP or a sport, and =
the
> time at which the housing lottery closes. I think a reasonable compromis=
e
> would be for the admistration/housing office to keep the arrival date for
> all freshman the same (was it Friday last year?). If students think they=
'll
> need the usual 3ish days to figure out where they want to live, then they
> will still have the opportunity to arrive earlier than Sunday to walk
> around, get to know the dorms, etc. If a frosh is comfortable with where
> they're going to live, they can arrive whenever they want during the
> weekend, either to explore MIT/Cambridge/Boston if they get here early, o=
r
> arrive at the last possible moment before the check-in table closes.
>
> This wouldn't put any additional strain on the housing office/staff that
> prepares the dorms, since it wouldn't be a departure from the current
> system. If this ends up being the case though, we need to make sure a cl=
ear
> message is sent to the incoming class that they can arrive whenever they
> want during the weekend depending on what they want to do, and avoid givi=
ng
> them the impression that they shouldn't arrive until convocation.
>
> If you don't move the move-in date but start official orientation events
> later, you're just shifting the responsibility of participating in REX to
> the incoming freshmen class. If they want it, it is there for them. Its
> not forced upon them, and the opportunity is not taken away from them at
> all. To me, this embodies the
> choose-for-yourself-because-we're-all-grown-up mentality that we strive t=
o
> keep at MIT.
>
> --Tim
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead (UA Speaker) <
> ua-speaker@mit.edu<mailto:ua-speaker@mit.edu>> wrote:
> Hi, everyone:
>
> Please find linked below the agenda for 42 UAS 9, our first Senate meetin=
g
> of the Spring semester. There is no guest speaker, but we have plenty of
> business to address at Monday's meeting.
>
> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS42/agendas/2011-02-07.pdf
>
> Elections & confirmation procedures for officers and committee chairs are
> first along with the State of the UA address. Responding to requests from
> Senators over IAP and on the self-evaluation, I will begin requesting tha=
t a
> few committee chairs give short reports on their committee's progress at
> each meeting. This, along with regular Senator participation on committee=
s,
> should help keep Senate in the loop on the work of the committees and ena=
ble
> us to operate in an oversight capacity.
>
> The brief discussion on orientation is an opportunity for us to address
> orientation in an open way before reviewing legislation and making furthe=
r
> decisions about the issue. We can skip this agenda item on Monday if it i=
s
> no longer necessary.
>
> I have not received the legislation for orientation or FinBoard policy ye=
t;
> I will link them once they have been submitted. Any agenda items that hav=
e
> not been submitted by tomorrow (Sunday) at 7:30pm will be removed in the
> interest of transparency.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Jont=E9 Craighead
>
> Speaker of the Senate
> MIT Undergraduate Association
> Course 1C: Class of 2013
>
>
>
>
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All undergrads have a voice at Senate meetings (although a time limit may b=
e imposed), so you should tell your people they're welcome to come and =
speak.<br><br>I would encourage them to speak up if they have something pro=
ductive to say (i.e., a solution to the problem, or a part of the problem t=
hat has not yet been thought of or articulated).=A0 Unlike the last meeting=
, everyone in attendance at this meeting will be on the same page about why=
REX is important and how the proposed schedule doesn't leave enough ti=
me for all freshmen to make an informed decision about where to live.=A0 So=
talking about those ideas would be essentially a waste of time.<br>
<br>-hwkns<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:3=
8 PM, Almas Abdulla <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:almas_a@mit.edu=
">almas_a@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, =
204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Can non-senate members raise concerns regarding REX in today's meeting?=
Some of my constituents are interested in attending.<br>
<br>
Almas<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:trjenks@gmail.com">trjenks@gmail.com</a> [<a href=
=3D"mailto:trjenks@gmail.com">trjenks@gmail.com</a>] On Behalf Of Tim Jenks=
[<a href=3D"mailto:tjenks@MIT.EDU">tjenks@MIT.EDU</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:26 AM<br>
To: Daniel D Hawkins<br>
Cc: ua-senate-officers; ua-senate<br>
Subject: Re: Agenda for 42 UAS 9<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
That depends on how busy their FPOP and the math diagnostic keeps them duri=
ng these days. =A0They'd have at least Sunday and Monday, and parts (po=
ssibly only the night) or all of Saturday.<br>
<br>
--Tim<br>
<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Daniel Hawkins <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu">hwkns@mit.edu</a><mailto:<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:hwkns@mit.edu">hwkns@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
What about FPOP kids? =A0How much REX time do they get in this scenario?<br=
>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tim Jenks <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tjenks@mit.edu">tjenks@mit.edu</a><mailto:<a href=3D"mailt=
o:tjenks@mit.edu">tjenks@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
Hi guys, has any progress been made on discussion for orientation? =A0After=
mulling it over for a while, it seems to me that the big issue is the sque=
eze in time between the earliest point that students are allowed to arrive =
on campus if they're not participating in an FPOP or a sport, and the t=
ime at which the housing lottery closes. =A0I think a reasonable compromise=
would be for the admistration/housing office to keep the arrival date for =
all freshman the same (was it Friday last year?). =A0If students think they=
'll need the usual 3ish days to figure out where they want to live, the=
n they will still have the opportunity to arrive earlier than Sunday to wal=
k around, get to know the dorms, etc. If a frosh is comfortable with where =
they're going to live, they can arrive whenever they want during the we=
ekend, either to explore MIT/Cambridge/Boston if they get here early, or ar=
rive at the last possible moment before the check-in table closes.<br>
<br>
This wouldn't put any additional strain on the housing office/staff tha=
t prepares the dorms, since it wouldn't be a departure from the current=
system. =A0If this ends up being the case though, we need to make sure a c=
lear message is sent to the incoming class that they can arrive whenever th=
ey want during the weekend depending on what they want to do, and avoid giv=
ing them the impression that they shouldn't arrive until convocation.<b=
r>
<br>
If you don't move the move-in date but start official orientation event=
s later, you're just shifting the responsibility of participating in RE=
X to the incoming freshmen class. =A0If they want it, it is there for them.=
=A0Its not forced upon them, and the opportunity is not taken away from th=
em at all. =A0To me, this embodies the choose-for-yourself-because-we'r=
e-all-grown-up mentality that we strive to keep at MIT.<br>
<br>
--Tim<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Jon=
t=E9 Craighead (UA Speaker) <<a href=3D"mailto:ua-speaker@mit.edu">ua-sp=
eaker@mit.edu</a><mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ua-speaker@mit.edu">ua-speake=
r@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
Hi, everyone:<br>
<br>
Please find linked below the agenda for 42 UAS 9, our first Senate meeting =
of the Spring semester. There is no guest speaker, but we have plenty of bu=
siness to address at Monday's meeting.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS42/agendas/2011-02-07.pdf" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS42/agendas/2011-02-07.pdf</a><=
br>
<br>
Elections & confirmation procedures for officers and committee chairs a=
re first along with the State of the UA address. Responding to requests fro=
m Senators over IAP and on the self-evaluation, I will begin requesting tha=
t a few committee chairs give short reports on their committee's progre=
ss at each meeting. This, along with regular Senator participation on commi=
ttees, should help keep Senate in the loop on the work of the committees an=
d enable us to operate in an oversight capacity.<br>
<br>
The brief discussion on orientation is an opportunity for us to address ori=
entation in an open way before reviewing legislation and making further dec=
isions about the issue. We can skip this agenda item on Monday if it is no =
longer necessary.<br>
<br>
I have not received the legislation for orientation or FinBoard policy yet;=
I will link them once they have been submitted. Any agenda items that have=
not been submitted by tomorrow (Sunday) at 7:30pm will be removed in the i=
nterest of transparency.<br>
<br>
Please let me know if you have any questions.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jont=E9 Craighead<br>
<br>
Speaker of the Senate<br>
MIT Undergraduate Association<br>
Course 1C: Class of 2013<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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