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Re: Agenda for 42 UAS 9

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Jenks)
Mon Feb 7 10:26:27 2011

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:26:23 -0500
From: Tim Jenks <tjenks@MIT.EDU>
To: hwkns <hwkns@mit.edu>
Cc: ua-senate-officers <ua-senate-officers@mit.edu>,
        ua-senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>

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That depends on how busy their FPOP and the math diagnostic keeps them
during these days.  They'd have at least Sunday and Monday, and parts
(possibly only the night) or all of Saturday.

--Tim

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Daniel Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu> wrote:

> What about FPOP kids?  How much REX time do they get in this scenario?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tim Jenks <tjenks@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys, has any progress been made on discussion for orientation?  Afte=
r
>> mulling it over for a while, it seems to me that the big issue is the
>> squeeze in time between the earliest point that students are allowed to
>> arrive on campus if they're not participating in an FPOP or a sport, and=
 the
>> time at which the housing lottery closes.  I think a reasonable compromi=
se
>> would be for the admistration/housing office to keep the arrival date fo=
r
>> all freshman the same (was it Friday last year?).  If students think the=
y'll
>> need the usual 3ish days to figure out where they want to live, then the=
y
>> will still have the opportunity to arrive earlier than Sunday to walk
>> around, get to know the dorms, etc. If a frosh is comfortable with where
>> they're going to live, they can arrive whenever they want during the
>> weekend, either to explore MIT/Cambridge/Boston if they get here early, =
or
>> arrive at the last possible moment before the check-in table closes.
>>
>> This wouldn't put any additional strain on the housing office/staff that
>> prepares the dorms, since it wouldn't be a departure from the current
>> system.  If this ends up being the case though, we need to make sure a c=
lear
>> message is sent to the incoming class that they can arrive whenever they
>> want during the weekend depending on what they want to do, and avoid giv=
ing
>> them the impression that they shouldn't arrive until convocation.
>>
>> If you don't move the move-in date but start official orientation events
>> later, you're just shifting the responsibility of participating in REX t=
o
>> the incoming freshmen class.  If they want it, it is there for them.  It=
s
>> not forced upon them, and the opportunity is not taken away from them at
>> all.  To me, this embodies the
>> choose-for-yourself-because-we're-all-grown-up mentality that we strive =
to
>> keep at MIT.
>>
>> --Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead (UA Speaker) <
>> ua-speaker@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, everyone:
>>>
>>> Please find linked below the agenda for 42 UAS 9, our first Senate
>>> meeting of the Spring semester. There is no guest speaker, but we have
>>> plenty of business to address at Monday's meeting.
>>>
>>> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS42/agendas/2011-02-07.pdf
>>>
>>> Elections & confirmation procedures for officers and committee chairs a=
re
>>> first along with the State of the UA address. Responding to requests fr=
om
>>> Senators over IAP and on the self-evaluation, I will begin requesting t=
hat a
>>> few committee chairs give short reports on their committee's progress a=
t
>>> each meeting. This, along with regular Senator participation on committ=
ees,
>>> should help keep Senate in the loop on the work of the committees and e=
nable
>>> us to operate in an oversight capacity.
>>>
>>> The brief discussion on orientation is an opportunity for us to address
>>> orientation in an open way before reviewing legislation and making furt=
her
>>> decisions about the issue. We can skip this agenda item on Monday if it=
 is
>>> no longer necessary.
>>>
>>> I have not received the legislation for orientation or FinBoard policy
>>> yet; I will link them once they have been submitted. Any agenda items t=
hat
>>> have not been submitted by tomorrow (Sunday) at 7:30pm will be removed =
in
>>> the interest of transparency.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jont=E9 Craighead
>>>
>>> Speaker of the Senate
>>> MIT Undergraduate Association
>>> Course 1C: Class of 2013
>>>
>>
>>
>

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That depends on how busy their FPOP and the math diagnostic keeps them duri=
ng these days.=A0 They&#39;d have at least Sunday and Monday, and parts (po=
ssibly only the night) or all of Saturday.<br><br>--Tim<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Daniel Hawkins <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:hwkns@mit.edu">hwkns@mit.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: =
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
What about FPOP kids?=A0 How much REX time do they get in this scenario?<di=
v><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Su=
n, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tim Jenks <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:tjenks@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">tjenks@mit.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi guys, has any =
progress been made on discussion for orientation?=A0 After mulling it over =
for a while, it seems to me that the big issue is the squeeze in time betwe=
en the earliest point that students are allowed to arrive on campus if they=
&#39;re not participating in an FPOP or a sport, and the time at which the =
housing lottery closes.=A0 I think a reasonable compromise would be for the=
 admistration/housing office to keep the arrival date for all freshman the =
same (was it Friday last year?).=A0 If students think they&#39;ll need the =
usual 3ish days to figure out where they want to live, then they will still=
 have the opportunity to arrive earlier than Sunday to walk around, get to =
know the dorms, etc. If a frosh is comfortable with where they&#39;re going=
 to live, they can arrive whenever they want during the weekend, either to =
explore MIT/Cambridge/Boston if they get here early, or arrive at the last =
possible moment before the check-in table closes.<br>



<br>This wouldn&#39;t put any additional strain on the housing office/staff=
 that prepares the dorms, since it wouldn&#39;t be a departure from the cur=
rent system.=A0 If this ends up being the case though, we need to make sure=
 a clear message is sent to the incoming class that they can arrive wheneve=
r they want during the weekend depending on what they want to do, and avoid=
 giving them the impression that they shouldn&#39;t arrive until convocatio=
n.<br>


<br>If you don&#39;t move the move-in date but start official orientation e=
vents later, you&#39;re just shifting the responsibility of participating i=
n REX to the incoming freshmen class.=A0 If they want it, it is there for t=
hem.=A0 Its not forced upon them, and the opportunity is not taken away fro=
m them at all.=A0 To me, this embodies the choose-for-yourself-because-we&#=
39;re-all-grown-up mentality that we strive to keep at MIT.<br>

<font color=3D"#888888">
<br>--Tim</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead (UA Speaker) <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ua-speaker@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">ua-s=
peaker@mit.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi, everyone:<br>=
<br>Please find linked below the agenda for 42 UAS 9, our first Senate meet=
ing of the Spring semester. There is no guest speaker, but we have plenty o=
f business to address at Monday&#39;s meeting.<br>



<br><a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS42/agendas/2011-02-07.pdf" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS42/agendas/2011-02-07.pdf<=
/a><br>

<br>Elections &amp; confirmation procedures for officers and committee chai=
rs are first along with the State of the UA address. Responding to requests=
 from Senators over IAP and on the self-evaluation, I will begin requesting=
 that a few committee chairs give short reports on their committee&#39;s pr=
ogress at each meeting. This, along with regular Senator participation on c=
ommittees, should help keep Senate in the loop on the work of the committee=
s and enable us to operate in an oversight capacity.<br>





<br>The brief discussion on orientation is an opportunity for us to address=
 orientation in an open way before reviewing legislation and making further=
 decisions about the issue. We can skip this agenda item on Monday if it is=
 no longer necessary.<br>





<br>I have not received the legislation for orientation or FinBoard policy =
yet; I will link them once they have been submitted. Any agenda items that =
have not been submitted by tomorrow (Sunday) at 7:30pm will be removed in t=
he interest of transparency.<br>





<br>Please let me know if you have any questions.<br><br clear=3D"all">Than=
ks,<br>Jont=E9 Craighead<br><br>Speaker of the Senate<br>MIT Undergraduate =
Association<br>Course 1C: Class of 2013<br>
</blockquote></div><br>
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