[1400] in UA Exec
Re: Ambulance Confidentiality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tommy Anderson)
Thu Sep 27 12:52:29 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAPo8nnKxGiOZtMszv2jW8MKYdSATQkaPCg+XAqn+9T31p8h7Og@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:52:25 -0400
From: Tommy Anderson <tommy_a@MIT.EDU>
To: Katy Gero <kgero@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Jessica H Lowell <jessiehl@MIT.EDU>, Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@MIT.EDU>,
"ua-exec@mit.edu" <ua-exec@MIT.EDU>
Hi Katy,
I might be able to provide you with some additional information if
you'd like to chat in person. I have a little bit of a behind the
scenes understanding from my role as the IFC Judicial Committee
Secretary 2 years ago
Cheers,
Tommy
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Katy Gero <kgero@mit.edu> wrote:
> While I have gotten several very helpful responses from individuals, and am
> now somehow meeting with Barbara Baker, I have not gotten any response from
> a current UA exec member that this is something they are interested in
> discussing or pursuing.
>
> I most certainly cannot tackle this kind of thing myself and what will
> happen is I will find out as much as I can and that will merely increase my
> understanding of how the institute works. I would love it if someone in the
> UA thought this was important, because I got several different responses to
> my email and they were not entirely consistent -- I don't believe these
> policies are consistent and hence everyone is, in some, correct, which I
> find worrisome when trying to understand how hypothetical situations will be
> dealt with. However, if the UA is uninterested then I will drop it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Katy
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Katy Gero <kgero@mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to note that I am in no way suggesting that we should
>> broadcast this data and imply that people should not call 100. I am not here
>> to scaremonger and I always and will continue to encourage people to call
>> 100 in an emergency situation. However, upon hearing of these things, I
>> believe that it is an issue the UA should be aware of and discussing.
>>
>> Katy
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Jessica H Lowell <jessiehl@mit.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, this is the first time in several years I've contributed to a UA
>>> discussion
>>> (I guess ua-discuss was cced on this?).
>>>
>>> When I was in the UA I poked a little bit at the fact that you have to go
>>> through campus police to get EMTs. That went absolutely nowhere; the
>>> idea of
>>> *actual* confidential medical help was a non-starter. I've since
>>> learned,
>>> doing volunteer medical work, that "If you summon emergency medical help
>>> you
>>> might also get cops" is also a significant barrier to people getting
>>> medical
>>> help in the "real world".
>>>
>>> I did not know about the involvement of the Dean on Call, etc (has that
>>> always
>>> been the case or is that relatively new?). IMO that is pretty terrible
>>> and if
>>> the UA successfully picked it up that would be good for students. A bit
>>> of
>>> crufty anecdata - I brought this issue up on my zephyr class after seeing
>>> this
>>> thread, and every single person who responded was horrified at the idea
>>> that so
>>> many people could be in the loop on this, and most said that if they'd
>>> known
>>> that as undergrads it would have affected their willingness to call 100
>>> in an
>>> emergency situation.
>>>
>>> - Jessie
>>> UA Senator 2004-2005, 2006-2007
>>> UAVP 2005-2006
>>>
>>> Quoting Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@MIT.EDU>:
>>>
>>>> Don't leave many details on the phone call...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: katystreet@gmail.com [mailto:katystreet@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Katy Gero
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:52 PM
>>>> To: ua-exec@mit.edu
>>>> Subject: Ambulance Confidentiality
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone that is on this mailing list,
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if this is not the correct mailing list to use for this
>>>> issue. I recently learned that when you call campus police at 100 all
>>>> details from that call are reported to the Dean on Call, who is not in any
>>>> way bound by confidentiality. (The list of people a Dean on Call might tell
>>>> is quite large, and includes, I think, other Deans on Call, S^3, Dean
>>>> Humphrey's, Barbara Baker...) So while the EMTs are completely confidential,
>>>> you can only call the EMTs through campus police. This is pretty upsetting
>>>> to me, since I have generally been told that calling an ambulance is
>>>> confidential and is something I tell others to encourage them to call 100 in
>>>> an emergency situation.
>>>>
>>>> I would be pretty upset if S^3 based their decision of what to do with
>>>> me because of on an incident I was involved with when the EMTs were called.
>>>>
>>>> I also recently learned that the Good Samaritan policy only applies to
>>>> alcohol related incidents. I have similar feelings towards this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if this is an issue the UA wants to pick up, but I would be
>>>> in support of looking into these policies.
>>>>
>>>> Katy Gero
>>>> Senior Haus President and Former UA Senate Member
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Thomas A. Anderson
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2013
Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
