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why this is a real mess and v6 may fail (was marketing bs Re: Creating

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Wed Oct 3 00:40:42 2007

Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:50:02 -1000
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: William Herrin <herrin-nanog@dirtside.com>
CC: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <3c3e3fca0710022020i6048971enfc0a0b5d897c7b94@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


>>> During early phase of free pool exhaustion, when you can't deliver
>>> more IPv4 addresses to your customers you lose the customer to a
>>> hosting provider who still has addresses left. So sorry. Those will be
>>> some nasty years. Unless you're Cogent, Level3 or one of the others
>>> sitting pretty on a /8. They'll be in phat city.
>> this is a very real and significant problem.  a very small fraction of
>> the arin membership holds the vast majority of the address space.  it
>> would be interesting to ask arin to give us the cdf of this.
> 
> It would be nice if it was that simple. Those /8's arise from legacy
> assignments that fall more or less directly under IANA without any
> form of agreement in place that could allow policy change. Barring
> government action, they're effectively the unrecoverable property of
> those organizations. They can even act as mini-registries and auction
> addresses off to the highest bidder if they're so inclined.\

and this prevents producing a cdf exactly how?

randy

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