[9837] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: the original thirteen NSFNET regionals
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin Oberman)
Thu Jun 5 10:40:13 1997
To: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" <map@iphil.net>
Cc: rmg@ranma.com (Rob Gutierrez), nanog@merit.edu, oberman@es.net
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 05 Jun 97 19:16:01 +0800."
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 97 07:36:43 -0700
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
> From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" <map@iphil.net>
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:16:01 +0800 (HKT)
> Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
>
> Rob Gutierrez wrote:
> > Does NSI (NASA Science Internet) qualify as one of those? Yeah, it was
> > 1989 when it started (Hi Milo!), but ... :)
Not really. Both NSI and ESnet backbones pre-date the NSF regionals
and received no NSF funding, being funded by NASA and the Department
of Energy, respectively. These were established as national backbones,
independent of the NSFnet though both did peer with the NSFnet at
FIX-East (at UMD and later at SURAnet) and FIX-West (at
NASA-Ames). Milo was largely responsible for the FIX design which was
the pre-cursor in many ways to the current MAE design and both
locations were connected to the MAEs.
It might be noted that both NASA and ESnet were originally primarily
DECnet networks as they pre-date IP development by a little bit. They
also, in there early forms (SPAN, HEPnet, and MFEnet) predate the
NSFnet.
FIX-West is still in business while FIX-East is being dismantled as I
type as BBN Planet is moving out of the old SURAnet facility.
> Where is Milo Medin nowadays.. ?
Milo is busily trying to engineer the network of is dreams at @home. I
believe he is VP of Network Engineering or some such. He was one of
@home's original executives.
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
