[9850] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: the original thirteen NSFNET regionals
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Erik Sherk)
Thu Jun 5 14:10:30 1997
To: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
cc: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" <map@iphil.net>, rmg@ranma.com (Rob Gutierrez),
nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Jun 1997 07:36:43 PDT."
<9706051436.AA04777@ptavv.es.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:04:34 -0400
From: Erik Sherk <sherk@UU.NET>
> > From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" <map@iphil.net>
> > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:16:01 +0800 (HKT)
> > Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> >
> > Rob Gutierrez wrote:
> > > Does NSI (NASA Science Internet) qualify as one of those? Yeah, it was
> > > 1989 when it started (Hi Milo!), but ... :)
>
> Not really. Both NSI and ESnet backbones pre-date the NSF regionals
> and received no NSF funding, being funded by NASA and the Department
> of Energy, respectively. These were established as national backbones,
> independent of the NSFnet though both did peer with the NSFnet at
> FIX-East (at UMD and later at SURAnet) and FIX-West (at
> NASA-Ames). Milo was largely responsible for the FIX design which was
> the pre-cursor in many ways to the current MAE design and both
> locations were connected to the MAEs.
>
> It might be noted that both NASA and ESnet were originally primarily
> DECnet networks as they pre-date IP development by a little bit. They
> also, in there early forms (SPAN, HEPnet, and MFEnet) predate the
> NSFnet.
>
> FIX-West is still in business while FIX-East is being dismantled as I
> type as BBN Planet is moving out of the old SURAnet facility.
>
Yea, I was in the old NOC on friday and wrote a large
^^^^^
^^^^ ^^^^
| SURAnet |
| '86-'95 |
| RIP |
| |
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Of course, I had to cross out the 'RIP' and write 'ISIS' :-)
Erik
