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RE: Carrier Recommendations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Knoll \(TTNET\))
Tue Jul 17 10:19:02 2007

Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:04:30 -0500
In-Reply-To: <24535bbb0707161439t3b05fc9fi49aa43ad0238d4a1@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Brian Knoll \(TTNET\)" <Brian.Knoll@tradingtechnologies.com>
To: "Daniel" <accesss801@gmail.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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Will you be running any multicast applications on these links?  Are they
real-time video or data feeds?  If so I'd steer clear of any MPLS based
solutions and stick with something that gives you a deterministic path.


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Personally I'd stay away from Radianz and YIPES as I've had bad
experiences with them over the past year.  They have a significant
amount of outages and most go unexplained.

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I have a global network with Global Crossing now and they average about
2-3 small outages (less than 5 minutes) per week but their NOC engineers
seem to be helpful and respond quickly with RFOs.  Proper backup paths
prevent it causing much of an issue.

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I'm not sure any of them are great...=20

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Thanks,

Brian Knoll

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From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Daniel
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:40 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Carrier Recommendations

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All,

I am currently in the process of evaluating carriers for future
expansion into international regions, primarily Asia, Europe and South
America.

I am comfortable with AT&T and Verizon however I would like to make sure
I include all the major players and would like your direct feedback and
commentary in regards to any of them.=20

These are the key areas I am concerned with.

Support
Reliability
Flexibility
Complexity
Coverage

I am looking at two deployment options as well if anyone would like to
comment.

1) A single carrier for global connectivity to all sites (mpls etc)

2) A single carrier for global regional connectivity, and in
country/regional carriers for all local offices that funnel back to
regional aggregation points.=20

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Daniel


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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you be running any multicast applications on these links?&nbsp; Are they
real-time video or data feeds?&nbsp; If so I&#8217;d steer clear of any =
MPLS
based solutions and stick with something that gives you a deterministic =
path.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Personally
I&#8217;d stay away from Radianz and YIPES as I&#8217;ve had bad =
experiences
with them over the past year.&nbsp; They have a significant amount of =
outages
and most go unexplained.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have a global network with Global Crossing now and they average about =
2-3 small
outages (less than 5 minutes) per week but their NOC engineers seem to =
be helpful
and respond quickly with RFOs.&nbsp; Proper backup paths prevent it =
causing
much of an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;m
not sure any of them are great&#8230; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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an><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Knoll</span><span =
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</span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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</b><span
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owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Daniel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 16, 2007 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nanog@merit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Carrier Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>All,<br>
<br>
I am currently in the process of evaluating carriers for future =
expansion into
international regions, primarily Asia, Europe and South America.<br>
<br>
I am comfortable with AT&amp;T and Verizon however I would like to make =
sure I
include all the major players and would like your direct feedback and
commentary in regards to any of them. <br>
<br>
These are the key areas I am concerned with.<br>
<br>
Support<br>
Reliability<br>
Flexibility<br>
Complexity<br>
Coverage<br>
<br>
I am looking at two deployment options as well if anyone would like to =
comment.<br>
<br>
1) A single carrier for global connectivity to all sites (mpls etc)<br>
<br>
2) A single carrier for global regional connectivity, and in =
country/regional
carriers for all local offices that funnel back to regional aggregation =
points.
<br>
<br>
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks, Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>

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