[95693] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rod Beck)
Mon Apr 2 09:24:49 2007
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:14:18 +0100
From: "Rod Beck" <Rod.Beck@hiberniaatlantic.com>
To: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>,
"Gadi Evron" <ge@linuxbox.org>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
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I rarely post, but that is clearly a problem. The Americans seem to =
believe in the presumption of guilt and the infallibility of accusation. =
As an American born and bred I can hardly be accused of bias. =20
Clearly spam is a serious problem in terms of draining network =
resources, but organizations like Spamhaus don't even do an =
investigation.=20
Maybe this new American mentality explains Guantanamo Bay.=20
Roderick S. Beck
Hibernia Atlantic
30 Dongan Place, NY, NY 10040
http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com
Landline: 1-212-942-3345
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.=20
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com
rodbeck@erols.com
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu on behalf of Stephane Bortzmeyer
Sent: Mon 4/2/2007 1:58 PM
To: Gadi Evron
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: =
On-going ..]
=20
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:51:16PM -0500,
Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org> wrote=20
a message of 39 lines which said:
> I can testify as to some registrars (enom, godaddy, tucows, etc.) =
being
> very responsive and some registries (read .info) being very
> cooperative.
>=20
> OBVIOUSLY this is not the case for everyone.
If "being cooperative" means "shoot immediately any
presumed-to-be-innocent each time a random vigilante asks you so", I
hope that the ".fr" registry is uncooperative.
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I rarely post, but that is clearly a problem. The =
Americans seem to believe in the presumption of guilt and the =
infallibility of accusation. As an American born and bred I can hardly =
be accused of bias. <BR>
<BR>
Clearly spam is a serious problem in terms of draining network =
resources, but organizations like Spamhaus don't even do an =
investigation.<BR>
<BR>
Maybe this new American mentality explains Guantanamo Bay.<BR>
<BR>
Roderick S. Beck<BR>
Hibernia Atlantic<BR>
30 Dongan Place, NY, NY 10040<BR>
<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com">http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com<=
/A><BR>
Landline: 1-212-942-3345<BR>
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.<BR>
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com<BR>
rodbeck@erols.com<BR>
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu on behalf of Stephane Bortzmeyer<BR>
Sent: Mon 4/2/2007 1:58 PM<BR>
To: Gadi Evron<BR>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu<BR>
Subject: Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: =
On-going ..]<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:51:16PM -0500,<BR>
Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org> wrote<BR>
a message of 39 lines which said:<BR>
<BR>
> I can testify as to some registrars (enom, godaddy, tucows, etc.) =
being<BR>
> very responsive and some registries (read .info) being very<BR>
> cooperative.<BR>
><BR>
> OBVIOUSLY this is not the case for everyone.<BR>
<BR>
If "being cooperative" means "shoot immediately any<BR>
presumed-to-be-innocent each time a random vigilante asks you so", =
I<BR>
hope that the ".fr" registry is uncooperative.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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