[95350] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jamie Bowden)
Thu Mar 15 10:13:43 2007
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:01:28 -0400
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From: "Jamie Bowden" <jamie@photon.com>
To: <frnkblk@iname.com>, "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Verizon.
Jamie Bowden
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Iain Bowen <alaric@alaric.org.uk>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnkblk@iname.com]=20
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:45 AM
> To: Jamie Bowden; NANOG list
> Subject: RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell=20
> big users (fwd)
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> Jamie:
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> Who is your ILEC? If you look at Iowa, which has move than=20
> 150 independent
> telephone companies, the broadband penetration rate exceeds 90%
> http://www.state.ia.us/government/com/util/broadband.html
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> Frank=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie Bowden [mailto:jamie@photon.com]=20
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:31 AM
> To: frnkblk@iname.com; NANOG list
> Subject: RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell=20
> big users (fwd)
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> s/our exchanges/our urban exchanges/
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> And even then, not so much. I have cable or nothing, and I live in
> Fairfax Co. 41k line feet from my house to the exchange. In rural
> areas, most of the population far outside of DSL range.
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> Jamie Bowden
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> "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold"
> Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur"
> Iain Bowen <alaric@alaric.org.uk>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On=20
> > Behalf Of Frank Bulk
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:23 PM
> > To: 'NANOG list'
> > Subject: RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell=20
> > big users (fwd)
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> > Could you please clarify that comment? USF has made it=20
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> > serve DSL to almost every customer in our exchanges.
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> > Frank=20
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank Bulk=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:50 AM
> > To: NANOG list
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell=20
> > big users (fwd)
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> > On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Daniel Senie wrote:
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> > > A universal service charge could be applied to all bills,=20
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> > > funds going to subsidize rural areas.
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> > This is already done in the U.S., to no discernible effect.
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> > --------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com> // 408.527.6376 voice
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> > Words that come from a machine have no soul.
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> > -- Duong Van Ngo
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