[95274] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Mar 13 18:37:53 2007
To: Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info>
Cc: Todd Vierling <tv@pobox.com>,
Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:50:43 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:36:55 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:50:43 EDT, Joe Abley said:
> However, just because you're remote doesn't mean that there aren't
> options in the last mile, so long as you're prepared to do something
> rather than just complain about others not doing it. The island of
> Niue in the South Pacific has had free, nation-wide wifi available
> for all since 2003, for example, and you don't get much more remote
> than Niue.
Keeping this in perspective, the CIA Factbook says that Niue had a population
of 2,166 in July 2006, an area of 100 square miles (1.5 times the size of Wash DC),
and a highest elevation of a whole whopping 250 feet.
Meanwhile, Montgomery County, Virginia has some 85K or so people, 393
square miles, and more ridgelines and hollows than you can shake a stick at
(elevations from 1,300 to 3,700 feet inclusive).
Probably 70K of those people are crowded into about 40 square miles in 2 main
plateaus - those are easy to cover. The other 15K people scattered across
350 square miles of ridgelines and hollows are a lot harder to cover.
I posit that those 350 square miles are more remote, measured from "the point
the big fat cable lands at" (whatever landing station Niue has, and the 2 or 3
main telco CO's here), than any point on the island of Niue. At least measured
by criteria that matter to the guy engineering the towers.
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