[95120] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: FCC on wifi at hotel
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Meuse)
Wed Feb 28 17:07:46 2007
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:01:05 -0500
From: "Steve Meuse" <smeuse@gmail.com>
To: "Carl Karsten" <carl@personnelware.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <45E5E79F.9090000@personnelware.com>
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It's about revenue recovery. If you provide your own free wifi, they are
losing potential business. It's usually part of the negotiation with the
Hotel.
-Steve
On 2/28/07, Carl Karsten <carl@personnelware.com> wrote:
>
>
> me again.
>
> So wifi at pycon 07 was 'better than 06' witch I hear was a complete
> disaster.
> More on 07's coming soon.
>
> Now we are talking about wifi at pycon 08, which will be at a different
> hotel
> (Crown Plaza in Rosemont, IL) and the question came up: Can the hotel
> actively
> prevent us from using our own wifi?
>
> _maney: although - wasn't the hotel stuck on "our wifi or no wifi" at last
> report?
>
> CarlFK: only the FCC can restrict radio
>
> tpollari: it's their network and their power the FCC has no legal right to
> that.
> and no, you show me where they do. I'm not wasting my day with that tripe
> --
> the caselaw you're likely thinking of has to do with an airline and an
> airport
> and the airline's lounge, in which case they're paying for the power and
> paying
> for their bandwidth from a provider that's not the airport. We're not.
>
> I know that there are all sorts of factors, and just cuz the FCC says boo
> isn't
> the end of the story, but i don't even know what the FCC's position on
> this is.
> google gave me many hits, and after looking at 10 or so I decided to
> look
> elsewhere.
>
> Carl K
>
--
-Steve
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<br>It's about revenue recovery. If you provide your own free wifi, they are losing potential business. It's usually part of the negotiation with the Hotel. <br><br>-Steve<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 2/28/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Carl Karsten</b> <<a href="mailto:carl@personnelware.com">carl@personnelware.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>me again.<br><br>So wifi at pycon 07 was 'better than 06' witch I hear was a complete disaster.<br>More on 07's coming soon.<br><br>Now we are talking about wifi at pycon 08, which will be at a different hotel
<br>(Crown Plaza in Rosemont, IL) and the question came up: Can the hotel actively<br>prevent us from using our own wifi?<br><br>_maney: although - wasn't the hotel stuck on "our wifi or no wifi" at last report?
<br><br>CarlFK: only the FCC can restrict radio<br><br>tpollari: it's their network and their power the FCC has no legal right to that.<br>and no, you show me where they do. I'm not wasting my day with that tripe --
<br>the caselaw you're likely thinking of has to do with an airline and an airport<br>and the airline's lounge, in which case they're paying for the power and paying<br>for their bandwidth from a provider that's not the airport. We're not.
<br><br>I know that there are all sorts of factors, and just cuz the FCC says boo isn't<br>the end of the story, but i don't even know what the FCC's position on this is.<br> google gave me many hits, and after looking at 10 or so I decided to look
<br>elsewhere.<br><br>Carl K<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><br>-Steve
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