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Re: what the heck do i do now?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ross Hosman)
Wed Jan 31 20:50:47 2007

From: "Ross Hosman" <rosshosman@hotmail.com>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:49:41 -0600
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Or just have everydns [or insert other free dns provider] handle your 
primary dns and let them handle the traffic, problem solved (for you 
atleast) :-)

Personally I have no sympathy to people who are using outdated dnsbl's 
(especially from 1999), I would consider the wildcard if you want to 
actually solve the problem instead of dealing with it yourself or having to 
hand it off to someone else.

You may also take that list of ips (with over 100 queries or so) and turn on 
the dnsbl with those ips added (they will only reject mail from each other 
but it might give some a clue).

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ulevitch" <davidu@everydns.net>
To: "Paul Vixie" <paul@vix.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: what the heck do i do now?

>
> Paul Vixie wrote:
>> bear with me, this appears to be about DNS but it's actually about 
>> e-mail.
>>
>> maps.vix.com has been gone since 1999 or so.  mail-abuse.org is the new 
>> thing.
>> i've tried just about everything to get traffic toward the old domain 
>> name to
>> stop... right now there's a DNAME but it made no real difference.
> Paul,
>
> Not offering a solution but a bit of an explanation perhaps...
>
> From: http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/rblsmtpd.html
> "If you do not supply any -r options, rblsmtpd tries an RBL source of 
> rbl.maps.vix.com. This will be changed in subsequent versions."
>
> So checking the last released version:
> /ucspi-tcp-0.88# grep -hn maps.vix.com rblsmtpd.c
> 193:  if (flagwantdefaultrbl) rbl("rbl.maps.vix.com");
>
> Looks like that could be a cause of some of your pain...
> Not everyone runs rblsmptd on their mailserver, but I know lots of large 
> mail servers that run rblsmptd (qmail).
>
> The fact that the option is the default without being explicit means that 
> at least some folks don't even know maps.vix.com zones are no longer 
> present and the current failure case is not impacting them.
>
> -david ulevitch
>
> 

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