[94647] in North American Network Operators' Group
what the heck do i do now?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Vixie)
Wed Jan 31 17:58:26 2007
From: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:57:21 +0000
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
bear with me, this appears to be about DNS but it's actually about e-mail.
maps.vix.com has been gone since 1999 or so. mail-abuse.org is the new thing.
i've tried just about everything to get traffic toward the old domain name to
stop... right now there's a DNAME but it made no real difference. i've taken
the maps.vix.com domain away. i've set its NS to "localhost". i've put long
TTL's on both good and bad data. the traffic continues. clearly this is my
pennance for starting MAPS, and i hear you giggling about it, but i need some
advice. once upon a time, someone more insane than myself wanted to close an
RBL and did so by replacing it with a wildcard entry. we all hated that since
it caused a lot of mail to bounce. (all mail that would otherwise have been
received by that RBL's subscribers, in fact.) it did however have the effect
of causing the subscribers to reconfigure their mailers to stop querying the
now-dead RBL in question. what's the current thinking on this?
oh and even though this isn't about bgp i can put some numbers in so that it
will seem on-topic. out of 100K DNS queries received by a vix.com nameserver
(which is about five minutes worth), here are the toptalkers for maps.vix.com.
(and we all know by now that public shaming and notification won't work, i'm
not sure why this is relevant, but it looks good, so here it is.) "thoughts?"
2208 68.216.187.10
2156 192.106.1.99
1348 213.239.240.162
1024 192.106.1.100
808 192.106.1.1
742 216.156.2.29
659 216.55.144.5
594 192.203.136.10
592 80.247.227.1
556 24.111.1.180
535 217.18.160.2
523 87.127.246.222
438 192.106.1.9
430 192.203.136.1
384 69.20.2.227
378 213.249.17.10
355 87.98.222.35
353 216.218.185.16
331 213.251.136.18
319 72.41.223.229
274 216.65.0.148
264 61.194.193.9
257 200.75.51.132
251 213.234.128.211
248 213.251.134.167
222 69.38.230.2
208 219.232.224.89
193 213.249.17.11
178 200.75.51.133
175 204.212.38.12
170 209.244.4.235
167 211.5.1.220
158 200.62.191.36
150 195.178.70.10
147 212.125.128.91
147 192.247.72.254
145 202.180.64.9
144 216.46.201.220
135 164.164.149.13
134 203.97.32.3
132 66.98.240.151
129 84.14.44.250
122 206.40.201.230
118 195.14.50.1
108 211.5.1.219
102 64.234.192.7
98 66.235.216.48
88 200.205.163.168
85 69.20.2.243
85 69.20.2.231
85 146.83.183.94
80 202.239.113.18
79 199.60.229.4
79 140.186.4.4
78 68.125.191.131
78 203.97.32.5
72 80.88.192.200
71 192.189.54.17
70 82.210.64.18
69 217.106.235.214
68 202.229.192.20
66 202.154.3.2
64 217.19.24.18
61 213.203.124.146
61 195.96.33.249
57 168.95.1.128
56 203.94.129.130
56 200.69.193.111
56 168.95.1.133
55 72.3.128.125
54 168.95.1.145
53 216.231.41.2
53 210.119.192.6
52 203.141.32.247
52 168.95.1.132
50 80.80.231.223
50 204.145.230.31
49 213.225.90.203
48 61.129.66.75
48 38.115.131.10
47 195.220.32.99
46 64.60.208.40
46 207.12.35.170
46 168.95.1.129
46 168.95.1.126
44 212.42.168.116
44 209.128.208.11
44 168.95.1.148
43 84.14.176.166
43 200.62.191.38
43 154.11.147.2
42 168.95.1.144
41 168.95.1.131
41 168.95.1.127
40 81.240.254.45
40 218.223.31.252
40 209.82.111.202
39 69.20.2.237
39 217.22.50.3
39 211.72.171.75
39 131.188.3.89
38 203.166.97.12
38 199.201.145.162
38 168.95.1.147
38 12.98.160.66
37 69.36.241.228
37 168.95.1.146
37 131.130.199.155
36 200.31.192.18
34 216.174.17.6
34 209.61.163.233
34 200.207.88.142
34 168.95.1.92
32 80.247.228.1
32 69.60.117.147
31 67.18.97.50
30 202.175.151.10
27 168.95.1.99
26 216.127.136.207
26 212.245.255.2
26 195.2.96.2
25 216.244.191.38
25 212.86.129.142
25 199.64.0.252
24 212.55.197.117
24 199.166.210.2
24 154.11.136.2
23 216.65.0.156
23 198.63.210.55
23 194.204.0.1
22 202.134.64.12
21 84.22.6.100
21 211.125.124.33
21 203.198.7.66
21 203.144.168.6
21 203.116.1.94
21 202.96.102.3
21 158.234.250.70
20 65.106.2.117
20 213.191.73.65
19 66.77.137.9
19 64.65.208.6
19 64.122.97.116
19 203.23.72.2
19 194.106.218.42
17 80.255.128.145
17 168.95.192.81
16 194.242.40.3
16 168.95.192.83
15 69.20.2.225
15 210.104.1.13
15 207.7.4.66
15 207.218.192.26
15 207.106.1.2
15 168.95.192.89
15 168.95.192.84
15 140.123.181.1
14 217.10.104.109
14 216.145.96.10
14 212.45.26.98
14 210.238.234.242
14 210.236.36.2
14 193.50.240.2
14 193.225.16.111
14 168.95.192.86
14 150.186.1.1
13 24.96.32.18
13 218.232.110.37
13 213.130.10.10
13 202.237.13.66
13 161.142.201.17
12 168.95.192.80
11 62.252.64.17
11 213.171.195.168
11 211.125.124.34
11 210.253.165.8
11 203.30.161.1
11 202.45.84.68
10 216.127.136.213
10 212.49.128.65
10 203.10.110.104
10 202.134.99.162
10 192.114.65.50
10 168.95.192.88
10 168.95.192.85
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