[94354] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Google wants to be your Internet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Ulevitch)
Sat Jan 20 16:02:45 2007
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:00:49 -0800
From: David Ulevitch <davidu@everydns.net>
To: Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
Cc: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>, booloo@ucsc.edu,
nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <a2b2d0480701201143n61d378c6s4d069fd0582b69d4@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Alexander Harrowell wrote:
> The Internet: the world's only industry that complains that people want
> its product.
The quote sounds good, but nobody in this thread is complaining.
There have always been top-talkers on networks and there always will be.
The current top-talkers are the joe and jane users of tomorrow. That
is what is important. BitTorrent-like technology might start showing up
in your media center, your access point, etc. The Venice Project
(Joost) and a number of other new startups are also built around this
model of distribution.
Maybe a more symmetric load on the network (at least on the edge) will
improve economic models or maybe we'll see "eyeball" networks start to
peer with each other as they start sourcing more and more of the bits.
Maybe that's already happening.
-david
>
> On 1/20/07, *David Ulevitch* < davidu@everydns.net
> <mailto:davidu@everydns.net>> wrote:
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> Rodrick Brown wrote:
> >
> > On 1/20/07, Mark Boolootian < booloo@ucsc.edu
> <mailto:booloo@ucsc.edu>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Cringley has a theory and it involves Google, video, and
> oversubscribed
> >> backbones:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070119_001510.html
> >>
> >
> > The following comment has to be one of the most important
> comments in
> > the entire article and its a bit disturbing.
> >
> > "Right now somewhat more than half of all Internet bandwidth is being
> > used for BitTorrent traffic, which is mainly video. Yet if you
> > surveyed your neighbors you'd find that few of them are BitTorrent
> > users. Less than 5 percent of all Internet users are presently
> > consuming more than 50 percent of all bandwidth."
>
> Moreover, those of you who were at NANOG in June will remember some of
> the numbers Colin gave about Youtube using >20gbps outbound.
>
> That number was still early in the exponential growth phase the site is
> (*still*) having. The 20gbps number would likely seem laughable now.
>
> -david
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