[94195] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gian Constantine)
Fri Jan 12 10:27:10 2007
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Cc: <kuhtzch@corp.earthlink.net>,
"Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Gian Constantine <constantinegi@corp.earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:24:21 -0500
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Yes, the NCTC.
I have spoken with two of the vendors you mentioned. Neither have
pass-through licensing rights. I still have to go directly to most of
the content providers to get the proper licensing rights.
There are a few vendors out there who will help a company attain
these rights, but the solution is not turnkey on licensing. To be
clear, it is not turnkey for the major U.S. content providers.
Gian Anthony Constantine
Senior Network Design Engineer
Earthlink, Inc.
On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:
> You mean the NCTC? Yes, they did close their doors for new
> membership, but
> there are regional head ends that represent a larger number of ITCs
> that
> have been able to directly negotiate with the content providers.
>
> And then there's the turnkey vendors: IPTV Americas, SES Americom'
> IP-PRIME,
> and Falcon Communications.
>
> It's not entirely impossible.
>
> Frank
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On
> Behalf Of Gian
> Constantine
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:47 AM
> To: kuhtzch@corp.earthlink.net
> Cc: Marshall Eubanks; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day,
> continuously?
>
>
> Many of the small carriers, who are doing IPTV in the U.S., have
> acquired
> their content rights through a consortium, which has since closed
> its doors
> to new membership.
>
> I cannot stress this enough: content is the key to a good industry-
> changing
> business model. Broad appeal content will gain broad interest. Broad
> interest will change the playing field and compel content providers to
> consider alternative consumption/delivery models.
>
> The ILECs are going to do it. They have deep pockets. Look at how
> quickly
> they were able to get franchising laws adjusted to allow them to offer
> video.
>
> Gian Anthony Constantine
> Senior Network Design Engineer
> Earthlink, Inc.
>
>
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<HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; =
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the vendors you mentioned. Neither have pass-through licensing rights. I =
still have to go directly to most of the content providers to get the =
proper licensing rights.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>There are a few vendors out =
there who will help a company attain these rights, but the solution is =
not turnkey on licensing. To be clear, it is not turnkey for the major =
U.S. content providers.</DIV><DIV><BR =
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white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Gian Anthony =
Constantine</DIV><DIV>Senior Network Design =
Engineer</DIV><DIV>Earthlink, Inc.</DIV><BR =
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</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Frank Bulk =
wrote:</DIV><BR class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE =
type=3D"cite"><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">You mean the NCTC?<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Yes, they did close their =
doors for new membership, but</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">there are =
regional head ends that represent a larger number of ITCs that</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">have been able to directly negotiate with the =
content providers. <SPAN =
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0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">And then =
there's the turnkey vendors: IPTV Americas, SES Americom' =
IP-PRIME,</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and Falcon =
Communications.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">It's not entirely impossible.</DIV><DIV =
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">Frank</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; ">________________________________</DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From: =
owner-nanog@merit.edu [<A =
href=3D"mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu">mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu</A>] =
On Behalf Of Gian</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Constantine</DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:47 AM</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:kuhtzch@corp.earthlink.net">kuhtzch@corp.earthlink.net</A><=
/DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Cc: Marshall Eubanks; <A =
href=3D"mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</A></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: Network end users to pull down 2 =
gigabytes a day, continuously?</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Many of the small carriers, who are doing IPTV in =
the U.S., have acquired</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">their content =
rights through a consortium, which has since closed its doors</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">to new membership.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</SPAN></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I cannot =
stress this enough: content is the key to a good =
industry-changing</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">business model. Broad appeal =
content will gain broad interest. Broad</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">interest =
will change the playing field and compel content providers to</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">consider alternative consumption/delivery =
models.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">The ILECs are going to do it. They have deep =
pockets. Look at how quickly</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">they were =
able to get franchising laws adjusted to allow them to offer</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">video.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</SPAN></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Gian Anthony =
Constantine</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Senior Network Design =
Engineer</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Earthlink, Inc.</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
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