[93844] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (W.D.McKinney)
Fri Dec 29 01:45:42 2006
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "W.D.McKinney" <deem@wdm.com>
In-Reply-To: 200612290457.kBT4vmI14342@broadway.hevanet.com
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:48:30 -0900
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
I was formerly employed by WCI Cable in Forest Grove, OR. which had the =
landing station for cable to Alaska, Australia, Japan, etc. It was not A=
laska Northstar then, but Alaska FiberStar.
-Dee
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Heutte [mailto:aoxomoxoa@sunlightdata.com]
To: joelja@uoregon.edu
Cc: nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net, nanog@merit.edu
Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:28:36 -0900
Subject: Re: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel=
/ KT e tc connectivity disrupted
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> There are significant cable landing sites at Pacific City and at=20
> Nedonna Beach near Rockaway, Oregon, not far from here in Portland.
> They connect variously to Japan, Hawaii (and Australia), Alaska
> and California.
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> Quite a bit about these cable terminuses can be found at the
> Oregon Fishermen's Cable Committee web site.
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> www.ofcc.com/cable=5Flocations.htm
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> The OFCC worked closely from the mid-1990s onward with at least
> three cable operators, Tyco, Alaska Northstar and Southern Cross
> (which has the main US-Australia loops). They have a special
> agreement that basically amounts to a collaborative approach to=20
> actual or potential cable snags by trawlers. =20
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> The background makes for interesting reading. "The Oregon=20
> Fishermen's Undersea Cable Committee Agreement (Oregon=20
> Fishermen's Agreement) is the first effort by two industries to=20
> discuss, describe and delineate their shared use of a community=20
> resource -- the ocean . . . The Oregon Fishermen's Agreement is=20
> intended to prevent damage to the fiber optic cable by releasing=20
> a Participating Fisherman from possible civil liability for ordinary=
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> negligence to WCICI/ANC/NorthStar Network under defined =0B
> circumstances rather than by relying on fear and litigation."
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> www.ofcc.com/about=5Fofcc.htm
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> There's also an International Cable Protection Committee with what
> looks like a pretty complete listing of all active, retired and planne=
d
> cable routes at:
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> www.iscpc.org
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> -- fh=20
> =20
> -----------------
> >
> >Frank Coluccio wrote:
> >>=20
> >> Kidding aside, these "errors" are actually intentional, and the pub=
lisher makes
> >> no bones about it at the bottom of the page. See disclaimer under t=
he South
> >> Atlantic Ocean:
> >>=20
> >> "Cable Routes do not represent all subsea cable networks and do not=
reflect
> >> actual location of cables"
> >
> >The relevant charts and or current navigation software have the cable=
s
> >well marked because mariners have an obligation under several
> >international treaties (going back to 1884) not to hit them... If you
> >have the tools to go on a "fishing trip" you have the tools to find t=
he
> >cable. If you obfuscate the location of cables I can plead ignorance
> >when I drag it up with my achor.
> >
> >http://mapserver.maptech.com/mapserver/nautical=5Fsymbols/L4.html
> >
> >Like with back-hoeing through fiber, if you think hitting a submarine
> >cable is bad there's plenty other stuff out there that has potentiall=
y
> >disastrous consequences, gas lines, oil lines, well heads, high volta=
ge
> >power lines, and of course lots of other things that fall into the
> >category of navigational hazards.
> >
> >joelja
> >--=20
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> >Joel Jaeggli Unix Consulting joelja@uoregon.=
edu
> >GPG Key Fingerprint: 5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 5=
6B2
> >
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