[93843] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fred Heutte)
Thu Dec 28 23:58:49 2006
From: Fred Heutte <aoxomoxoa@sunlightdata.com>
To: <joelja@uoregon.edu>
Cc: <nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:28:36 -0800
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
There are significant cable landing sites at Pacific City and at=
Nedonna Beach near Rockaway, Oregon, not far from here in=
Portland.
They connect variously to Japan, Hawaii (and Australia), Alaska
and California.
Quite a bit about these cable terminuses can be found at the
Oregon Fishermen's Cable Committee web site.
www.ofcc.com/cable_locations.htm
The OFCC worked closely from the mid-1990s onward with at least
three cable operators, Tyco, Alaska Northstar and Southern Cross
(which has the main US-Australia loops). They have a special
agreement that basically amounts to a collaborative approach to
actual or potential cable snags by trawlers.
The background makes for interesting reading. "The Oregon
Fishermen's Undersea Cable Committee Agreement (Oregon
Fishermen's Agreement) is the first effort by two industries to
discuss, describe and delineate their shared use of a community
resource -- the ocean . . . The Oregon Fishermen's Agreement is
intended to prevent damage to the fiber optic cable by releasing=
a Participating Fisherman from possible civil liability for=
ordinary
negligence to WCICI/ANC/NorthStar Network under defined =0B
circumstances rather than by relying on fear and litigation."
www.ofcc.com/about_ofcc.htm
There's also an International Cable Protection Committee with=
what
looks like a pretty complete listing of all active, retired and=
planned
cable routes at:
www.iscpc.org
-- fh
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>
>Frank Coluccio wrote:
>>
>> Kidding aside, these "errors" are actually intentional, and=
the publisher makes
>> no bones about it at the bottom of the page. See disclaimer=
under the South
>> Atlantic Ocean:
>>
>> "Cable Routes do not represent all subsea cable networks and=
do not reflect
>> actual location of cables"
>
>The relevant charts and or current navigation software have the=
cables
>well marked because mariners have an obligation under several
>international treaties (going back to 1884) not to hit them...=
If you
>have the tools to go on a "fishing trip" you have the tools to=
find the
>cable. If you obfuscate the location of cables I can plead=
ignorance
>when I drag it up with my achor.
>
>http://mapserver.maptech.com/mapserver/nautical_symbols/L4.html
>
>Like with back-hoeing through fiber, if you think hitting a=
submarine
>cable is bad there's plenty other stuff out there that has=
potentially
>disastrous consequences, gas lines, oil lines, well heads, high=
voltage
>power lines, and of course lots of other things that fall into=
the
>category of navigational hazards.
>
>joelja
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