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Re: WSJ: Big tech firms seeking power

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Shultz)
Fri Jun 16 20:45:47 2006

Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:49:33 -0700
From: Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz@wvi.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <200606170039.UAA16283@sigma.nrk.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


David Lesher wrote:
> 
> Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
>>
>>> I wonder just how much power it takes to cool 450,000 servers.
> .....
>> KwH = $111,000 /month in cooling.
> 
> I don't know the area; but gather it's hydro territory?
> 
> How about water-source heat pumps? It's lots easier to cool
> 25C air into say 10-15C water than into 30C outside air.
> 
> Open loop water source systems do have their issues [algae, etc]
> but can save a lot of power....
> 
> 

The Dalles, OR is on the Columbia River just upriver of Portland by 80 
miles or so. It has a large dam spanning what used to be Celilo Falls in 
it's front yard.

Hydro territory doesn't even begin to define it... :-)

"Eco-freak" territory also doesn't begin to define it, so the idea of 
piping water off the Columbia and returning it even 1/2 degree warmer is 
a non-starter.

I'm amazed they let them put up tall cooling towers in "the historic, 
scenic Columbia River Gorge...." (sorry, old political battle flashback)

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