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RE: WSJ: Big tech firms seeking power

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John van Oppen)
Sun Jun 18 03:40:56 2006

Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:40:23 -0700
From: "John van Oppen" <john@vanoppen.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


I can tell you that my home residential rate is just under 6 cents =
(after taxes) in eastern Washington and that you are in the ballpark =
with your large commercial customer numbers (irrigators get 2.5 cent =
rates).    We work with another PUD in the area on data center type apps =
and find the pricing to be amazing when compared to other areas.   There =
is also access to large amounts of water (for evaporative cooling as an =
example) in a lot of areas due to the ability to transfer water rights =
from agriculture to commercial use. =20

If anybody really wants more info, email privately.


John :)

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John van Oppen
PocketiNet Communications
Technical Operations
"Guter Rat ist teuer."  --Unbekannt
Main: + 1 (509) 526 - 5026=20
Direct: +1 (509) 593 - 4707=20
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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: chuck goolsbee [mailto:chucklist@forest.net]=20
Gesendet: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:48 AM
An: nanog@merit.edu
Betreff: Re: WSJ: Big tech firms seeking power


>I wonder just how much power it takes to cool 450,000 servers.

I've heard mumbles that the per kWh rates from=20
Bonneville in the locations along the Columbia=20
are in the sub-4=A2 range.

Grant county is seeing a huge fiber building boom=20
as a result. It will be more wired up than King=20
county soon. Woody was here last night and=20
remarked (feel free to correct me if I misquote=20
you Bill) that it was funny that nowadays=20
"network geeks were more interested in kilowatts=20
than kilobits"


--chuck (in Seattle)



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