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Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexei Roudnev)
Tue May 30 12:45:43 2006

From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net>
To: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>, <ge@linuxbox.org>,
	<fw@deneb.enyo.de>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:44:49 -0700
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


I did not mean _dont fight them_. I mean _fight and learn to live with
them_. They did existed and will exist; and it is better,
if they exist in some numbers (they play a role of predators in wildlife,
eating weakerst -:) - of course, it looks strange and I do not like them,
too).

Netwok must be designed to survive few DDOS attacks easily, by
auto-isolating and auto-limiting such traffic. Else,
you will have a serious problems if real traffic became congested (for
example, everyone rush to download fee iPOD songs).

Script-kiddies... what's about them, they existed in 199x-th as well and
they will exist in 201x. Just as mountain lionss do exists in Bay Area (and
sometimes can eat your favorite cat...)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists@gmail.com>
To: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net>
Cc: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>; <ge@linuxbox.org>; <fw@deneb.enyo.de>;
<nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming


> On 5/30/06, Alexei Roudnev <alex@relcom.net> wrote:
> >
> > You have not other chance than to accept it - itr is real life. Period.
> >
>
> So are (for example) skript kiddies.


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