[90510] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexei Roudnev)
Sat May 27 17:48:55 2006
From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net>
To: "Gadi Evron" <ge@linuxbox.org>,
	"Florian Weimer" <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 14:47:50 -0700
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Internet IS a wild west. You should live with it. It will never be _quet,
dead american's residential area, where dogs do not bark and kids do not
play themself on streets in age of 8 (normal dogs bark, and normal kids
often play themself when they are 8)_.
It is the whole WORLD, not one country.
So, we must live with it, and do not hope, that it will have numerous _speed
tickets_ and _police officers_ (as 90% of the people live every day, making
their own decisions and protecting themselves.
It is, in fact, a very effectiv way to stop spammers. But it definitely
became a dangerous DDOS service. So - learn how to live with it, it's the
only choice. (Make sure, that no single protocol or botnet can kill the
whole network or deplete all resources, for example).
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gadi Evron" <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: "Florian Weimer" <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >
> > * Gadi Evron:
> >
> > > http://news.google.com/news?q=black+frog
> > >
> > > How do we make this folly stop?
> >
> > Ignore it?  It's an inactive Sourceforge project (with some Google
> > forums attached), and news reports seem to be based on a Slashdot
> > diary entry announcing it:
>
> Ignoring is the high-road. How long are we going to cry about the Internet
> being a battle-ground, the wild west, or whatever else if we legitimize
> DDoS?
>
> Sometimes being quiet is not going to win the war. There will be other
> Blue Frogs.
>
> >
> >   <http://slashdot.org/~Spy+der+Mann/journal/135727>
> >
> > There are far more dangerous Sourceforge projects out there. 8-/
> >
>