[90511] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Sat May 27 18:00:44 2006
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 21:59:05 GMT
To: alex@relcom.net
Cc: ge@linuxbox.org, fw@deneb.enyo.de, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Sorry, this is not acceptable, regardless of national boundaries.
And it will be fought against, regardless of where it originates,
or resides. Always.
I do not condone collateral damage strategies in this regard, but
suggesting that a "wild, wild west" Internet is something that will
be a contimuum -- it cannot be, and will not be.
As such, I also do not condone such activities as Blue/Black Frog
suggest, as it is completely contrary to established practices of
mitigation (and removal).
- ferg
p.s. Now if we could only get the registries onboard...
-- "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net> wrote:
Internet IS a wild west. You should live with it. It will never be _quet=
,
dead american's residential area, where dogs do not bark and kids do not=
play themself on streets in age of 8 (normal dogs bark, and normal kids
often play themself when they are 8)_.
It is the whole WORLD, not one country.
So, we must live with it, and do not hope, that it will have numerous _s=
peed
tickets_ and _police officers_ (as 90% of the people live every day, mak=
ing
their own decisions and protecting themselves.
It is, in fact, a very effectiv way to stop spammers. But it definitely
became a dangerous DDOS service. So - learn how to live with it, it's th=
e
only choice. (Make sure, that no single protocol or botnet can kill the
whole network or deplete all resources, for example).
[snip]
--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
Engineering Architecture for the Internet
fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net
ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
