[9019] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them with charging under non-disclosure?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Balbach)
Sat May 3 00:34:14 1997
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 00:30:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Balbach <stephen@clark.net>
To: Gordon Cook <cook@netaxs.com>
cc: Dave Van Allen <dave@fast.net>, "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>,
"'inet-access@earth.com'" <inet-access@earth.com>,
"'dave@oldcolo.com'" <dave@oldcolo.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970502235020.17666C-100000@unix1.netaxs.com>
On Fri, 2 May 1997, Gordon Cook wrote:
> when they clean out all the competing backbones what is to prevent thenm
> from doubling and then tripling your charges Dave?
That is a strawman question. An attempt to answer this would concede Mr.
Cooks assumptions that have yet to be, and can't be, proven.
.stb
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> On Fri, 2 May 1997, Dave Van Allen wrote:
>
> > Well said!
> >
> > Gee, you mean that this *is* really a business??
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > David Van Allen - You Tools Corporation / FASTNET(tm)
> > dave@fast.net (610) 289-1100 http://www.fast.net
> > FASTNET - PA/NJ/DE Internet Solutions
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Stephen Balbach [SMTP:stephen@clark.net]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 02, 1997 6:43 AM
> > >To: Gordon Cook
> > >Cc: nanog@merit.edu; inet-access@earth.com; dave@oldcolo.com
> > >Subject: Re: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them with charging
> > >under non-disclosure?
> > >
> > >
> > >> First it was AGIS (but who cares about AGIS?). Now UUNET. Tomorrow who?
> > >> MCI? As UUNET and others of the big five move to consolidate their
> > >> markets.......... let UUNET put the smaller national backbones against the
> > >> wall and whom do the rest of ISP's have to rely on? Those ISPs who did
> > >> not get hit in UUNET's first round of cuts. Will you get it in the neck in
> > >> the second or the third round?
> > >
> > >The only thing UUNET is cutting is Internet trees, and there are some who
> > >are protesting by hugging them. Clear out the chaff for next seasons
> > >crops.
> > >
> > >Buying connectivity from an ISP who peers with UUNET, or buying direct
> > >from UUNET, is a lot cheaper then building a national DS-3/OC-3 backbone
> > >and trying to be default free - this is not about UUNET cuting throats,
> > >it's about large and small ISP's examining thier business model.
> > >
> > >
> > >.stb
> > >
> >
>
