[9018] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them with charging under non-disclosure?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gordon Cook)
Fri May 2 23:57:39 1997
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 23:51:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gordon Cook <cook@netaxs.com>
To: Dave Van Allen <dave@fast.net>
cc: "'Stephen Balbach'" <stephen@clark.net>,
"'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>,
"'inet-access@earth.com'" <inet-access@earth.com>,
"'dave@oldcolo.com'" <dave@oldcolo.com>
In-Reply-To: <c=US%a=_%p=You_Tools_Corp.%l=FNBDC1-970503022717Z-373@fnbdc1.youtools.com>
when they clean out all the competing backbones what is to prevent thenm
from doubling and then tripling your charges Dave?
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On Fri, 2 May 1997, Dave Van Allen wrote:
> Well said!
>
> Gee, you mean that this *is* really a business??
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Van Allen - You Tools Corporation / FASTNET(tm)
> dave@fast.net (610) 289-1100 http://www.fast.net
> FASTNET - PA/NJ/DE Internet Solutions
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Stephen Balbach [SMTP:stephen@clark.net]
> >Sent: Friday, May 02, 1997 6:43 AM
> >To: Gordon Cook
> >Cc: nanog@merit.edu; inet-access@earth.com; dave@oldcolo.com
> >Subject: Re: UUNET Pulling Peering Agreements & replacing them with charging
> >under non-disclosure?
> >
> >
> >> First it was AGIS (but who cares about AGIS?). Now UUNET. Tomorrow who?
> >> MCI? As UUNET and others of the big five move to consolidate their
> >> markets.......... let UUNET put the smaller national backbones against the
> >> wall and whom do the rest of ISP's have to rely on? Those ISPs who did
> >> not get hit in UUNET's first round of cuts. Will you get it in the neck in
> >> the second or the third round?
> >
> >The only thing UUNET is cutting is Internet trees, and there are some who
> >are protesting by hugging them. Clear out the chaff for next seasons
> >crops.
> >
> >Buying connectivity from an ISP who peers with UUNET, or buying direct
> >from UUNET, is a lot cheaper then building a national DS-3/OC-3 backbone
> >and trying to be default free - this is not about UUNET cuting throats,
> >it's about large and small ISP's examining thier business model.
> >
> >
> >.stb
> >
>
