[89882] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alain Hebert)
Tue Apr 11 16:56:48 2006
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:56:20 -0400
From: Alain Hebert <ahebert@pubnix.net>
Reply-To: ahebert@pubnix.net
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <200604112030.k3BKUCvV020674@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:00:14 CDT, Robert Bonomi said:
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>>1) _Who_says_ it is 'false data'? *Who*knows* what that machines is 'supposed'
>>to provide TO WHOM?
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>I think if you are handing another machine an NTP packet that's intentionally
>set several months off just to get them to shut up, you *know* the answer
>to "is it false data".
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>>I submit that;
>>1) If the query originator is 'entitled' to make assumptions about what the
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>>2) It would seem that the server operator is *equally* 'entitled' to make
>> assumptions about what the query means, and
>>3) to respond in a manner consistent with _his_ understanding of what the
>> query originater 'wanted'.
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>>If the query originator fails to 'get what he wanted', due to his failure
>>to communicate _in_advance_ with the server operator, *WHO* is to blame?
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>I suppose pointing out that the Internet works because providers *cooperate*
>and *agree on protocols* would be pointless....
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Yeap ... cooperate... Which DLink is not doing.
All legal discussion end the same way... a dead end.
Half are scared by lawyer and the other have enought intestinal
fortitude to put them in there place.
(At the bottom of the sea hopefully)
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Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net
PubNIX Inc.
P.O. Box 175 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 5T7
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