[89880] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Apr 11 16:30:59 2006
To: Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:00:14 CDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:30:11 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:00:14 CDT, Robert Bonomi said:
> 1) _Who_says_ it is 'false data'? *Who*knows* what that machines is 'supposed'
> to provide TO WHOM?
I think if you are handing another machine an NTP packet that's intentionally
set several months off just to get them to shut up, you *know* the answer
to "is it false data".
> I submit that;
> 1) If the query originator is 'entitled' to make assumptions about what the
> 2) It would seem that the server operator is *equally* 'entitled' to make
> assumptions about what the query means, and
> 3) to respond in a manner consistent with _his_ understanding of what the
> query originater 'wanted'.
> If the query originator fails to 'get what he wanted', due to his failure
> to communicate _in_advance_ with the server operator, *WHO* is to blame?
I suppose pointing out that the Internet works because providers *cooperate*
and *agree on protocols* would be pointless....
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