[89331] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: shim6 @ NANOG
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Jakma)
Tue Mar 7 21:12:10 2006
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 02:11:10 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Jakma <paul@clubi.ie>
To: Tony Hain <alh-ietf@tndh.net>
Cc: "'Iljitsch van Beijnum'" <iljitsch@muada.com>,
"'Owen DeLong'" <owen@delong.com>,
"'Roland Dobbins'" <rdobbins@cisco.com>,
"'NANOG list'" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Tony Hain wrote:
> While I agree that any aggregation would happen locally, the
> overall allocation policy for a consistent geo approach needs to be
> done globally.
Ideally, yes. Failling that, it's still possible for it to be done
unilaterally at a regional level, there would still be benefits. I.e.
"globally agreed policy" need not be a blocking dependency.
> You are mixing issues here.
Quite possibly ;).
> A policy for assigning PI space is what ARIN can deal with. A
> deployment agreement about aggregating a collection of PI
> assignments is what operators can deal with.
Sure. However, imagine if $RIR can not agree on such a policy, it
then could still be done within $REGION (in the $RIRs service area),
presuming $RIR can at least agree to delegate the required address
space (even if it can not agree on a policy).
I agree though it would be better if $RIR would drive policy
formulation, and even if better if the RIRs could jointly agree on
such polic{y,ies}.
> What needs to happen is to define a global mechanism for PI
> assignments such that it is possible to do aggregations when it
> becomes necessary. Any of the geo approaches allows aggregation of
> a high-density pocket without requiring aggregation of all pockets
> globally. In particular the approach I have been pursuing allows
> the definition of any aggregate to evolve and track population
> shifts over time.
Do you have any pointers to online material? Sounds very interesting.
regards,
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