[89141] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kurt Erik Lindqvist)
Fri Mar 3 11:14:07 2006
In-Reply-To: <76DE0F2C-3C68-405B-98C6-0A6EC4AEF377@dragondata.com>
Cc: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:55:18 +0100
To: Kevin Day <toasty@dragondata.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On 2 mar 2006, at 06.16, Kevin Day wrote:
> No, I'm just trying to be practical here... Estimates of IPv4 pool
> exhaustion range from Mid 2008 (Tony Hain's ARIN presentation) to
> roughly 2012 (Geoff Huston's ARIN presentation). Sooner if a mad
> dash for space starts happening (or isn't happening already).
>
> Does anyone here really believe that there is time for:
So what I think we might need (that I wrote in an internet-draft some
years ago) is the following things in exactly this order :
0. PI space with an artifically high barrier on entry yet available
when needed (read cost+administration=LIR or equiv.).
1. Ducttape ala shim6
2. One of breakthrough in graph-theory or a completely new addressing/
routing paradigm. Most like the latter.
That will take us past IPv4 exhaustion+IPv6 initial deployment,
through wider uptake through to the 10-15 years from now when we
might have an idea of what 2 is. I used to believe that it would take
10 years to deploy a standardised version of a stack change, I must
say I changing my mind and I am starting to agree with however said
that we just need to wait for the next <insert favourite OS> major
security hole+patch.
- kurtis -
