[88238] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Pekka Savola)
Thu Jan 26 01:39:33 2006

Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:34:58 +0200 (EET)
From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: "william(at)elan.net" <william@elan.net>,
	"Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <200601260622.k0Q6M2vW020917@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> In other words - what is the business case for deploying this proposed
> solution?  I may be able to get things deployed at $WORK by arguing that
> it's The Right Thing To Do, but at most shops an ROI calculation needs
> to be attached to get movement....

Exactly.  If $OTHER_FOLKS don't deploy it, cases like Panix may not 
really be avoided.

I think that's what folks proposing perfect -- but practically 
undeployable -- security solutions are missing.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post