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Re: Whatever happened to intelligence in the applicattion [Was: Re: Th

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Fri Dec 16 10:51:13 2005

From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:49:39 GMT
To: sean@donelan.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


I certainly don't endorse placing _all_ of the intelligence
in the application, but look at it this way -- if you expect
to have a 'stupid' CPE handset rely on 'intelligence' in the
network for voice quality, you're probably going to be disappointed.

And no amount of leveraging smoke-and-mirror QoS frobs to generate
additional revenue will help you out.

:-)

$.02,

- ferg


-- Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Fergie wrote:
> Doesn't anyone really remember the whole smart-v.-stupid network
> analogy? Not meaning to start a flame war here, but trying to stick
> all of the intelligence back into the network is not exactly a win-win=

> proposal.

Trying to stick it all in the application is not exactly a win-win
proposal either.  The problem with religious dogma is it leads to
a lot of burning people at the stake, for more stupid analogies.

Finding the right blend of what applications can do well, what the netwo=
rk
can do well, and how they interact is the challange.

For example, smart applications don't handle DDOS attacks very well, and=

regardless of how much network capacity you provision, there is always a=

DDOS that is bigger.

--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/


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