[86315] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: oh k can you see
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen J. Wilcox)
Tue Nov 1 15:16:18 2005
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:15:45 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk>
To: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>,
Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net>, <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <B3FDE7FD-80C8-49A4-B67E-F5B600B25F0C@isc.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Joe Abley wrote:
> On 1-Nov-2005, at 14:19, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
>
> > or am i naive too?
>
> I think you underestimate the tendencies of ISPs all over the world
> to leak peering routes towards their transit providers.
>
> Contrary to popular belief, leaks through peers in remote regions do
> not always result in huge AS_PATHs which are never selected by the
> rest of the network. For example, some of the most remote and poorly-
> connected ISPs that F is announced to from local nodes are transit
> customers of international, default-free carriers.
ok sure, but is this not just normal transit issues, these are not special
because they are a) anycast b) root-servers? if any networks peers leak they
should be reprimanded
Steve