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Re: oh k can you see

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Abley)
Tue Nov 1 15:10:45 2005

In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0511011915250.25860-100000@server2.tcw.telecomplete.net>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>,
	Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net>, <nanog@nanog.org>
From: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:10:11 -0500
To: Stephen J.Wilcox <steve@telecomplete.co.uk>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



On 1-Nov-2005, at 14:19, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

> or am i naive too?

I think you underestimate the tendencies of ISPs all over the world  
to leak peering routes towards their transit providers.

Contrary to popular belief, leaks through peers in remote regions do  
not always result in huge AS_PATHs which are never selected by the  
rest of the network. For example, some of the most remote and poorly- 
connected ISPs that F is announced to from local nodes are transit  
customers of international, default-free carriers.


Joe


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