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Re: IPv6 news

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com)
Mon Oct 17 09:35:59 2005

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To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:36:50 +0100
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> Many people pick this up and twist it into ~the network has to be 
> application agnostic~ and then use this against NATs or firewalls, 
> which is simply a misuse of the principle.

Personally, I think that NAT's interference with the
communication between hosts is similar to the way in
which error-detection and retransmission interfere
with realtime voice communication, as described in
Saltzer's end-to-end paper:
http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/endtoend/endtoend.txt

It seems that the end-to-end principle is more
of a metaphor for how to look at the design problem
rather than a hard and fast rule.

http://www.postel.org/pipermail/end2end-interest/2002-March/001848.html

--Michael Dillon



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