[85595] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 news
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Fri Oct 14 12:14:36 2005
From: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com>
To: Sabri Berisha <sabri@cluecentral.net>,
"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:13:17 -0400
In-Reply-To: <20051014143419.GA45766@cluecentral.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Dear Sabri;
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:34:19 +0200
Sabri Berisha <sabri@cluecentral.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 10:17:51AM -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
> Dear Marshall,
>
> > > Just wait for a popular adult-content-provider offering website-access
> > > for free via IPv6..
> >
> > Why ? Are you implying that there is unlimited free IPv6 bandwidth ?
>
> Nope.
>
> > If not, why would they do that ?
>
> Imagine the following scenario:
>
> "It's 2009, the world reaches the end of it's ipv4 supply. As large
> global networks are still struggling to implement ipv6 on their
> equipment, their customers are facing more and more problems to get
> additional IP-space from their RIR's and are forced to use ipv6. But
> due to the lack of planning, only a number of access-isp's have
> successfully deployed ipv6 on their networks and so we have shattered
> native ipv6 connectivity throughout the internet. To encourage the
> access- and carrierindustry, (adult)contentproviders in all continents
> decide to boost the demand for ipv6 connectivity and offer their
> services for free to ipv6 users, for a limited period of time."
>
Try as I may, I cannot imagine depending on the charity of porn content providers :)
What I can imagine is the porn providers paying whatever is necessary for IPv4 address
blocks. I would not want to get in a bidding war with them.
> Why did the internet grow so fast in the 90's? The public was able to
> access the network and created the demand for more content. This content
> attracted more and more eyeballs, and thus more commercial activities
> were deployed, resulting in a exponential growth of the network.
>
> Without eyeballs, contentproviders are not encouraged to deploy ipv6.
> Without content, eyeballproviders are not encouraged to deploy ipv6.
> It's a matter of time before one of them will be forced to end this
> circle and there is only one way to attract a large audience: giving a
> way your service for (nearly) free.
>
This sounds just like arguments heard in multicast discussions. I do give my
content away for free, and AmericaFree.tv currently realizes about 10% of its
(streaming) revenue from multicast (and presumably also realizes a similar percentage reduction in
bandwidth costs from the same).
If I thought that AFTV could increase revenues by another 10% by putting out IPv6 reflections of
existing content, it would. If I thought that it could make money by putting out dedicated IPv6
content, it would do that too. I don't see any reason to expect either at present. I would be glad
to be convinced otherwise.
> --
> Sabri
Regards
Marshall
>
> please do not throw salami pizza away
