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Re: Katrina Network Damage Report

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Sun Sep 11 15:09:41 2005

Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Spicer <a_spicer@bellsouth.net>,
	Steve Gibbard <scg@gibbard.org>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <bb0e440a0509110540585ac051@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

>
> On 9/11/05, Alan Spicer <a_spicer@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>  love IPv6 more than you guys would ever give to a sole. Shoot I could run a
>>
>> big ISP on a single 48. God bless America.
>>
>
> Instead, you have small end sites getting /48s from tunnel providers,
> and then running maybe two or three hosts on those.
>
> And seriously, does the main assumption of v6, that every single
> toaster out there is going to become a v6 host, really not scare
> anyone?

It doesn't scare us... ever try nmaping a /48?

Instead of toasters, though which I think of as hyperbole, possibly 
because my toster is ~40 years old, and still works fine thanks, think 
digital set-top boxes and tv's that need bi-directional communication to 
unwrap drm, That's order of a billion or so devices in the US over the 
next 10 years.

>  Giving IP connectivity to stuff that was just not designed
> from a security point of view .. I'm sure people have seen all the
> stories about network printers and electron microscopes running open
> relay smtp daemons, so when do I get to see a botnet full of
> compromised toasters that'll burn your toast to cinders if you try to
> disinfect them?
>
>

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