[84330] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Katrina Network Damage Report
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Spicer)
Sun Sep 11 14:25:59 2005
From: "Alan Spicer" <a_spicer@bellsouth.net>
To: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljitsch@muada.com>,
"NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:26:02 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
I don't think the point is that every thing could be connected to the
Internet but that the worry that 2 things can't be connected and ISP's get
to charge stupid fees for a static IP and that some countries other than the
US are severely starved for IP addresses. The reason IPv6 adoption is so
slow is because of things like NAT so the general public has no idea of any
IP Address shortage. Until they try to run any kind of server on the
Internet. If my ISP can give me a dynamic IP address on DSL for 100% of the
time, regardless of wether it changes when I disconnect, means there are
enough to give a static IP. I finally got one it took years to get it but an
upgrade to service includes it now. I think the broadband stuff like
increased DSL, and Cable and Cellular are going to starve these darned
hoarded IP's out of the US companies that hold them and finally get this
thing done one day soon. The fact that Google is looking at is I think is a
wakeup call to that.
Bellsouth.net isn't offering IPv6 which is crazy they should talk to google
I guess. So where is IP6 being done? I heard in mobile - cellular data?
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Alan Spicer (a_spicer@bellsouth.net)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljitsch@muada.com>
To: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina Network Damage Report
>
> On 11-sep-2005, at 14:40, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
>> And seriously, does the main assumption of v6, that every single
>> toaster out there is going to become a v6 host, really not scare
>> anyone?
>
> Nope. I guess people have other things that scare them... See subject.
>
>> Giving IP connectivity to stuff that was just not designed
>> from a security point of view .. I'm sure people have seen all the
>> stories about network printers and electron microscopes running open
>> relay smtp daemons, so when do I get to see a botnet full of
>> compromised toasters that'll burn your toast to cinders if you try to
>> disinfect them?
>
> Well, because I want to NAT some stuff (i.e., Windows XP box...) and not
> other stuff (the machines that I actually use) my wireless base station
> that is also a print server needs to accept print jobs from both "the
> outside" and "the inside". So far, I haven't found any spam printouts
> yet...
>
> In other words: 0wning random appliances isn't all that interesting.
>
> In fact, I would much rather allow access to pretty much anything else
> rather than a powerful general-purpose computer.
>
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